Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 03, 2010 06:22AM
Dude, that URL led to a JOKE about The Secret, not an actual factual story about life in prison. That story was meant to be experienced as a joke, as a spoof of The Secret and how inadequate magical thinking is when all your social support taken away and you're without resources in prison.
The bit about the guy saying he was a serial offender because he habitually pooped in mailboxes?
Thats a signal that this is a story that is meant to be taken as a JOKE.
Its all about how magical thinking isnt what its cracked up to be when you're taken away from all the props and supports we take for granted.
If you cant spot it as a joke, you are a prisoner of the whole cultic milieu/magical thinking scene.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2010 06:23AM by corboy.
The bit about the guy saying he was a serial offender because he habitually pooped in mailboxes?
Thats a signal that this is a story that is meant to be taken as a JOKE.
Its all about how magical thinking isnt what its cracked up to be when you're taken away from all the props and supports we take for granted.
If you cant spot it as a joke, you are a prisoner of the whole cultic milieu/magical thinking scene.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/03/2010 06:23AM by corboy.
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 03, 2010 06:25AM
Now here is what happened when someone shared "The Secret Saved My Life " parody on a discussion thread dedicated to taking The Secret seriously.
[tribes.tribe.net]
[tribes.tribe.net]
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 03, 2010 06:37AM
Here are some discussions of Ari B's essay. Some claim it was removed from Amazon, which would be a pity.
The discussion includes a take off on another ...self help product. (Caution--crude!)
[www.amazon.com]
The discussion includes a take off on another ...self help product. (Caution--crude!)
[www.amazon.com]
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 04, 2010 11:37PM
Back in March Kate posted a URL--dont know if it still works or not. Give it a try and see.
[forum.culteducation.com]
Google taakatism and see what comes up.
[forum.culteducation.com]
Google taakatism and see what comes up.
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 04, 2010 11:43PM
[taakatism.webs.com]
DWX said Taakatism was founded in India between 1475 to 1500
That runs close to the life time of Guru Nanak founder of the true Sikh dharma who lived between 1469 - Monday 22
September, 1539 and is considered the first Sikh guru.
Variant spellings of Taakat might be Takat and Taquat or Takht.
DWX said Taakatism was founded in India between 1475 to 1500
That runs close to the life time of Guru Nanak founder of the true Sikh dharma who lived between 1469 - Monday 22
September, 1539 and is considered the first Sikh guru.
Variant spellings of Taakat might be Takat and Taquat or Takht.
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 04, 2010 11:51PM
"The word "Taakatism" does not appear in any reliable sources (and very few unreliable ones), therefore it is an unlikely search term. Thryduulf (talk) 10:37, 7 March 2010 " quoted from a citation below.
(Coroby note)However if as DWX suggested, Taakatism had had a 500 year old history in India, there would have been some written sources available, if only in history books.
Instead, there was this on Wiki
(Coroby note)However if as DWX suggested, Taakatism had had a 500 year old history in India, there would have been some written sources available, if only in history books.
Instead, there was this on Wiki
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Taakatism
The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Taakatism → Mysticism (links to redirect • history • stats)
Delete. An article about this "religion of Indian origin" was deleted at this AfD in January as probably a hoax, and certainly lacking any reliable source to show that it was any more than something made up. The same author has now posted this redirect with the edit summary "redirect until a proper article can be put together." I have done another search; the same text has been posted in Wikibin but there is still no sign of any reliable source. Wikipedia should not be supporting this, even to the extent of a redirect, until some evidence is produced at WP:DRV that independent references to satisfy WP:V and WP:N can be exhibited. Not mentioned in target. JohnCD (talk) 16:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete The editor who created this has a long history of creating hoax articles and other hoax edits, and there is no evidence to suggest that this "religion" actually exists. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Keep Why not a redirect until I can get together an acceptable article? This seems like a perfect compromise. Claireislovely (talk) 08:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Because even a redirect gives Wikipedia's backing to the idea that the subject exists, and so even for a redirect we do not compromise with the principle of verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—what counts is whether readers can verify that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source." JohnCD (talk) 10:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete. The word "Taakatism" does not appear in any reliable sources (and very few unreliable ones), therefore it is an unlikely search term. Thryduulf (talk) 10:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Delete per above. --JokerXtreme (talk) 11:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
The above is preserved as the archive of an RfD nomination. Please do not modify it.
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 05, 2010 12:02AM
"The main difference between Taakatism and Buddhism appears to be the massages"
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TaakatismThe Taakat Dharma recommends to have a massage at least once a week, as well as
regular meditation. Deities Taakatism has a large pantheon of deities, ...
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Taakatism - Religion-wikiThe Taakat Dharma recommends to have a massage at least once a week, as well as
regular meditation. Deities Taakatism has a large pantheon of deities, ...
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User:Claireislovely/templates/taakatism - Wikipedia, the free ...Part of a series on. Taakatism · Taakatism.gif. Main Beliefs ... Practices.
Meditation · Worship · Taakatist Art · Massage ...
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Are Taakatism and Buddhism compatible? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland AnswersFeb 24, 2010 ... Are Taakatism and Buddhism compatible? I'm interested in both. ... difference
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Within the Yahoo dialogue was this
Are Taakatism and Buddhism compatible?
Are Taakatism and Buddhism compatible? I'm interested in both.
5 months ago
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Yeah, it appears to be.
The main difference between Taakatism and Buddhism appears to be the massages.
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Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: August 05, 2010 12:41AM
DWX wrote:
Corboy writes: If you run a Google search for International Taakatism Association representing in the west something that began in India 500 years ago, you get
just this:
[www.google.com]
Buddhism was gone from India by common era 1475 to 1500.
And just in case we are using Before Common Era dates, Buddhism did not even exist prior to BCE 500.
Two, try and google search "Naabhi Dalajit Gohain, the 1st Shikara"
Google results for Dalajit Gohain - 2 citations one of them DWX's post
[www.google.com]
Google results Dalajit Gohain Shikara -1 citations, one of them DWX's post
Naabhi Dalajit Gohain Shikara-1 citation--and that one is just DWX's post
[www.google.com]
If Taakatism did exist as even a minority religion in India, there would have been some historical material on it, especially if it had been around for 500 years. One cannot keep anything a secret for that long, especially if one has a lineage of 64 Shikaras.
There is no way one can have a lineage of over 60 Shikaras without some kind of history existing for researchers in one way or another.
[www.google.com]
And DWX had noted
By way of contrast, regarding the books not being free due to printing costs, I have a booklet, printed in Thailand of a talk given by Ajaan Chah, an honored Theravedan Buddhist master and abbot of a monastry.
That booklet was given out for free and its printing was made possible by donations from persons who loved the buddhaharma and wanted the merit of assisting all beings to wake up, and so donated funds to ensure printed versions of Ajaan Chas dharma talk would be available for nothing.
The book is 50 pages long, is a talk by the Venerable Ajahn Chah, is entitled The Key to Liberation.
It was printed by WAVE, standing for Wisdom Audio Visual Exchange, and the fly paper reads,
"Please Note: All WAVE reprints are strictly for free distribution.
'This is to ensure that the sponsors' intention-the promulgation of the Dhamma
for the benefit of all sentient beings- is achieved without hindrance.
We should like to express our admiration to our sponsors for their generosity. May the merit of their act help speed them to Nibbana.
Printed for free distribution as a gift of Dhamma.
On the back it reads, strictly for free distribution, no commercial value.
This, issued in January of 2000 was, for free distribution, a print run of 6000 copies of
a 50 page booklet on good quality paper.
So...print costs need not be a deterrrant.
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the religion of Taakatism began in north-eastern India between 1475-1500. Due to political pressures and suppression, Taakatism is now unfortunately a minority religion in India. The umbrella group, the International Taakatism Association is based in London, England and run by a democratically elected council headed by his holiness the 64th Shikara. The council chooses a new Shikara every 8 years. The council handles finances of the ITA. National groups handle their own finances. National groups are also democratically elected in the same manner.
Donations are 100% optional.
The books are not free due to printing costs.
Corboy writes: If you run a Google search for International Taakatism Association representing in the west something that began in India 500 years ago, you get
just this:
Quote
Cult Education Forum :: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious ...The umbrella group, the International Taakatism Association is based in London,
England and run by a democratically elected council headed ...
[forum.culteducation.com] - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
[www.google.com]
Buddhism was gone from India by common era 1475 to 1500.
And just in case we are using Before Common Era dates, Buddhism did not even exist prior to BCE 500.
Two, try and google search "Naabhi Dalajit Gohain, the 1st Shikara"
Google results for Dalajit Gohain - 2 citations one of them DWX's post
Quote
Cult Education Forum :: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious ...Taakatism was founded by Naabhi Dalajit Gohain, the 1st Shikara. Now time for
questions to you!!! Why do you have an axe to grind against my ...
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Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics/Articles - Wikipedia, the ...... Mancha - Janaki Ramachandran - Janata Dal - Janata Dal (Ajit) - Janata Dal
..... Rajasthan Vikas Party - Rajeev Shukla - Rajen Gohain - Rajendra Kumar ...
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[www.google.com]
Google results Dalajit Gohain Shikara -1 citations, one of them DWX's post
Quote
Cult Education Forum :: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious ...Taakatism was founded by Naabhi Dalajit Gohain, the 1st Shikara. Now time for
questions to you!!! Why do you have an axe to grind against my ...
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Naabhi Dalajit Gohain Shikara-1 citation--and that one is just DWX's post
Quote
Cult Education Forum :: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious ...Taakatism was founded by Naabhi Dalajit Gohain, the 1st Shikara. Now time for
questions to you!!! Why do you have an axe to grind against my ...
[forum.culteducation.com] - 31k - Cached - Similar pages
[www.google.com]
If Taakatism did exist as even a minority religion in India, there would have been some historical material on it, especially if it had been around for 500 years. One cannot keep anything a secret for that long, especially if one has a lineage of 64 Shikaras.
There is no way one can have a lineage of over 60 Shikaras without some kind of history existing for researchers in one way or another.
[www.google.com]
And DWX had noted
Quote
The books are not free due to printing costs.
By way of contrast, regarding the books not being free due to printing costs, I have a booklet, printed in Thailand of a talk given by Ajaan Chah, an honored Theravedan Buddhist master and abbot of a monastry.
That booklet was given out for free and its printing was made possible by donations from persons who loved the buddhaharma and wanted the merit of assisting all beings to wake up, and so donated funds to ensure printed versions of Ajaan Chas dharma talk would be available for nothing.
The book is 50 pages long, is a talk by the Venerable Ajahn Chah, is entitled The Key to Liberation.
It was printed by WAVE, standing for Wisdom Audio Visual Exchange, and the fly paper reads,
"Please Note: All WAVE reprints are strictly for free distribution.
'This is to ensure that the sponsors' intention-the promulgation of the Dhamma
for the benefit of all sentient beings- is achieved without hindrance.
We should like to express our admiration to our sponsors for their generosity. May the merit of their act help speed them to Nibbana.
Printed for free distribution as a gift of Dhamma.
On the back it reads, strictly for free distribution, no commercial value.
This, issued in January of 2000 was, for free distribution, a print run of 6000 copies of
a 50 page booklet on good quality paper.
So...print costs need not be a deterrrant.
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
~*~ k a t e ~*~
()
Date: August 07, 2010 12:54AM
Interesting points, corboy. I wonder if the 'history' of Taakatism is a fraud aswell as the group itself? It certainly wouldn't be the first time a new religious movement has incorporated older faiths into itself or it's history in order to seem older/more legitimate. Many religions with prophets do the same thing, whilst claiming theirs is the final prophet.
Re: Your thoughts on Taakatism?
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: August 07, 2010 07:20AM
All we can say for now is there is zero history, odd for something someone says dates back 500 years.
All we can say is, time will tell.
All we can say is, time will tell.
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