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Recent Ruiter buzz on Chi Ting Apocalypse blog
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 06, 2014 07:26AM

Some recent discussion here.

[chi-ting.blogspot.com]

A blog written by persons who live in Tiruvannamalai, aka 'Tiru'.

Blog can be searched for other names.

Warning: non PC outrageous graphics.

But..that is the glory of the First Amendment in action.

Rock on..

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Re: Recent Ruiter buzz on Chi Ting Apocalypse blog
Posted by: arunadasi ()
Date: April 06, 2014 03:36PM

Haven't been here for some time...

I happened to be in Tiru this February and I saw all the posters for John de Ruiter.
It was the first time I've been there in high season for many years, and I was overwhelmed by what the place has become. What was once a tranquil settlement centered around Ramanashram is now a chaotic spiritual tourism hotspot. Apart from the ads for John de Ruiter there were also ads for Laughing Yoga and Chatsang (where you go just to chat about spiritual matters). Aura readings, astrology, Tantra -- it's all there. One yoga teacher even began putting up her posters on signposts on the hill -- I tore them down.

Very few of these people and the tourists who come to see them set foot inside Ramanashram, which thank goodness remains as free of commerce as ever. But it is sad to see what has become of one of the finest places in all of India.

Reading that blog reminded me of a BBC video I saw recently, in which one of the pseudo-gurus, Radha Ma, was feautured; I had never heard of her before but I saw her in this film and so went to the blog post about her to learn of how she died. Truly horrific self-immolation. Read about it here.
[chi-ting.blogspot.de]

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Re: Gangaji, Mooji, Om C Parkin, John de Ruiter
Posted by: arunadasi ()
Date: April 06, 2014 05:01PM

... and in the meantime Mooji, also mentioned in the title thread, has thrived and become one of the leading Satsang teachers in the UK. A Jamaican guru with dreadlocks -- what a USP!

Here is his website: [www.mooji.org]

Mooji claims, like s many other New Age gurus floating around, to be of the line of Ramana Maharshi,and used to visit Tiruvannamalai regularly. He now has his own base in Portugal -- rumour has it that he was banned from Tiru due to tax evasion but I haven't really followed that story.

I have friends who are totally convinced by Mooji and dragged ma along to his Satsang in Brixton, London. Needless to say I was unimpressed -- his teaching is watered down Advaita, which he spoonfeeds to his devotees.

Here a blog post on Mooji from the Chi Ting Apocalypse blog: [chi-ting.blogspot.de]

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Re: Gangaji, Mooji, Om C Parkin, John de Ruiter
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 07, 2014 11:15PM

Mooji is collecting funds to build an ashram.

Here is a question for his loyal supporters.

When that ashram is completed, will your loyalty be
appreciated?

Too often, all too often, when an ashram or worship complex is
completed, the guru grows distant.

The early warmth and camaraderie between guru and devotees fades. Guru
becomes distant.

Buildings create and maintain pecking orders.

Will big donors be given equal treatment with those who donated less?

Will long time supporters have access to Mooji as they had in
the good old days before the ashram was built?

Or will the completed ashram result in the guru becoming remote,
will your support be forgotten, and will you be forced to wait, while
new supporters or the rich supporters be given preferential treatment?

Another question: Will neighbors be respected? Will the ashram community
be an asset to the area?

Or will noise, traffic and disruption take place around the ashram
in ways that mirror the changes in Tiru, now that so many
have shoved in and turned it into (so they say) a spiritual bazaar?



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New article on Jan de Ruiter - November 2017
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: November 25, 2017 11:02PM

Jan de Ruiter

Edmonton, Canada

Other names for this group:

"Johnites" "Oasis" "The College" "Oasis Centre" "College of Integrated Philosophy"

Staring back: Are a spiritual leader’s sexual relationships a calling or a dangerous abuse of power?

Are a spiritual leader's sexual relationships a calling or a dangerous abuse of power?

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There was a cup of coffee on her desk, growing cold. There was her wallet and her cell phone, her purse and her winter coat, a framed picture of John. The face she had stared at for countless hours, light hair and clear blue eyes, a gaze that felt as though it could unlock the universe itself.

Anina had moved across the world to be close to John de Ruiter. Four times a week, she and hundreds of others filled the long rows of chairs at The Oasis Centre in west Edmonton, staring silently at him for hours as he sat beatifically under a beam of light, staring back.

He was their guru and teacher, to some even a saviour, a humble messiah they called simply "John." They left their lives and families to be with him, devoted themselves completely to him and his teachings.

He arranged their marriages and relationships, their jobs and homes, gave them counsel and made their decisions, their lives winding ever more tightly around him while he drew from them their time and their labour, their money and their love.

They were Johnites or Oasis, sometimes The College, or just "the group."
....

Anina had changed. How when she talked about him, she adopted his mannerisms and tone, her face becoming distant and her voice sleepy and soft, almost like an entirely different person than the one they had known.

[www.theglobeandmail.com]

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Dark Oasis:A Self-Made Messiah Unveiled - (about de Ruiter)
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: December 29, 2017 04:18AM

Dark Oasis: A Self-Made Messiah Unveiled Paperback – November 11, 2017
by Jasun Horsley

[www.amazon.com]

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Dark Oasis: A Self-Made Messiah Unveiled documents how the sincere search for meaning can cause us to mistake the allure of a mirage for a genuine oasis. It reveals how the desire for deliverance can lead to psychic servitude, loss of autonomy, and cult-like dependency.

Inspired by the author's experiences with spiritual philosopher and self-proclaimed 'living embodiment of truth' John de Ruiter, Dark Oasis is an in-depth exploration of religious doctrine, language manipulation, and misplaced devotion. It provides informed inoculation against the many subtle forms of power abuse and exploitation found within the spiritual marketplace


Ignorance is Strength: John de Ruiter’s Empire of One
BY JASUN HORSLEY APRIL 1, 2017

[auticulture.wordpress.com]

(A very small section from the essay)

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s anyone who has followed John for any time at all knows, John teaches his followers (maybe the correct term for them is “thralls”) to be unemotional. Suppressing emotions might bring some relief, but if so it is only at a high cost. Where do the emotions go when they are suppressed, ignored, disowned, unacknowledged? Into the body, as toxins.

It’s an ironic, even tragic, fact that people who leave John are still tied to him as long as they have unresolved feelings about him. And how can they not, when he never acknowledges their feelings as real? It’s a powerful, devilish trick for keeping people waiting on the line indefinitely. Whether they are incensed, outraged, confused, bitter, angry, resentful, sad, or grieving, such seemingly unresolvable emotions (unresolvable because John is emotionally out of reach) will cause them to seek refuge in John’s own advice not to listen to or take seriously their feelings. And so, the ex-Johnnie, having no way to resolve that tension, finds him or herself perennially placing themselves back under their Master’s influence.

This is the Oasis revolving door: even as we think we are leaving, we find ourselves back again. If we reject John, criticize or question him, most especially with strong feeling, that’s just the proof of his power and purity, on the one hand, and, on the other, of the impurity of our “patterns” and our inability to appreciate the goodness of John or the goodness within us that only John, in his supreme virtue, can appreciate. This sort of “thinking” is built into the group’s mindset—it’s foundational to John-think—and it is designed to ensure there is no escape for the Birds of Being from the Nest John built. How can you escape from a mirage when it appears wherever your eyes fall, inside the desert of John’s “teachings”?

I went through this horrendous process myself, and it took months, years even, to stop drinking sand and locate my own source of sustenance. Maybe I am still completing the process, and this is why I never released the book. In the worst of it, John seemed everywhere, like a parasitical organism that regenerated itself from a single cell whenever I thought I’d got it completely out of my system. But was it really John, or was it the internal image I had created that was endlessly regenerating?

Discussion following the article was very interesting indeed. Here are some of the comments.

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Jasun Horsley
APRIL 10, 2017 AT 1:54 PM REPLY

Critical faculties are, IMO, insufficient protection when it comes to charismatic leaders skilled in finding and pulling emotional/energetic triggers, patterns of abandonment and trauma and imprinting us with their own words and presence while in that raw state. It is like accelerated transference and there’s no rational protection against it if you are susceptible (a good match for the teacher) and unless you are forewarned.

cynicalseeker
APRIL 10, 2017 AT 7:06 PM
You may be right. I noticed in one of your articles about Leonard Cohen you said that you had come to the conclusion that you couldn’t any longer trust your gut feeling.

I agree with that.

And I can envision situations where I might make a wrong decision about a particular guru. But this guy? First of all claiming to be Christ would raise a huge red flag for me. And all the staring followed by platitudes? He sounds like the Barack Obama of gurus. Definitely hearing about and reading up on these people is a huge help. You’re doing a good service here. I probably would not have heard of him otherwise.

Jasun Horsley
APRIL 10, 2017 AT 7:13 PM
John doesn’t ever publicly claim to be Christ; he has let it be known among long-term followers and then continues to nurture that belief through hints and nods and innuendos. As Tim says in our talk, he rules through implication.

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Jasun Horsley
APRIL 2, 2017 AT 4:01 PM REPLY
yes well the same can be said of any horrendous experience, but it’s a mighty big IF and I’m more interested in the majority that are still trapped in that crystal maze.

Leah
APRIL 3, 2017 AT 2:05 AM REPLY
Very fair point….. that was a flippant comment at the end I made. Sorry…. I think it’s a way I use to make myself feel safe. I was very lucky and had family taking care of me,,, I was totally shunned by the people who introduced me to him…….. it was a terrifying and most isolating experience and very lucky to be here today…

Jasun Horsley
APRIL 4, 2017 AT 3:55 PM REPLY
Glad someone with direct experience made it over here to the comments section. So many have been rendered speechless and timid by their run in with the 4 X 4 of Truth.

sarah490
APRIL 3, 2017 AT 2:51 PM REPLY
Jasun, please publish your book! I agree with your take on Nicholas. It does sound like he’s still enthralled. His cult-lingo defense of his father made me queasy, as I grew up with that type of gas-lighting. I know the damage it can do. In addition to psychological programming, perhaps, Nicholas now has a vested interest in his father’s busine$$, making it imperative for NDR to keep the show going?

One person's description of an encounter with de Ruiter

[deruiter-john-edmonton-an-experience.blogspot.com.br]

Types like de Ruiter are not born knowing how to enthrall people.

They do not get this talent in a sudden blast of spontaneous enlightenment, either.

No. They are ambitious persons. They take care to learn people management/PR skills.

Then they hide all this behind a cover story, find a small band of early loyalists and set out to recruit -- and always, always have some good accountants and investment advisors.

[forum.culteducation.com]



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Re: Gangaji, Mooji, Om C Parkin, John de Ruiter
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 11, 2018 09:22PM

New discussions about John de Ruiter - reports of three suicides.

Memoir written by former de Ruiter disciple

[forum.culteducation.com]

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