Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 15, 2011 01:29AM

A last throw of the dice; the defence have submitted two documents to the court that are instructing the judge to so instruct the jury:


[apps.supremecourt.az.gov]


[apps.supremecourt.az.gov]

According to Mr Salty, who has a legal degree, these matters are already explicit in the law so a matter for the judge to decide what to instruct the jury, not the defence team:

[saltydroid.info]


'So it wasn’t Ted that killed these people :: it was free will. Good to know.

The Judge isn’t going to read that strange and confusing garbage. It’s going to be much more boilerplate and boring.

The 1st Amendment stuff :: and the duty to act :: and the JAR / JRI distinction are all “matters of law” … meaning that they are decided by the Judge rather than by the “trier of fact” … aka the jury. All hopes for those lame arguments died when the Rule 20 motion was denied.'

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: scrambledeggs ()
Date: June 15, 2011 08:48AM

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Sparky
The jury should have this wrapped up within a couple days if not hours.

Bye bye, DeathRay. Maybe your cell-mate can play "spiritual warrior" with you after lights-out.

LOVE IT. Visualize cell-mate playing spiritual warrior "FULL ON"!

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 17, 2011 03:55PM

A good summary of the evidence in the closing arguments for the prosecution:

[twinkiewrangler.wordpress.com]

Today should see the defence closing arguments, such as they are, finally completed.

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 17, 2011 09:33PM

Some video highlights of the prosecution closing, courtesy of the Droid:

[saltydroid.info]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/17/2011 09:33PM by Stoic.

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 18, 2011 03:32PM

A six hour closing argument for the defence, the first few hours summarised here:

[celestial-reflections.blogspot.com]

with some news articles:

[www.dcourier.com]

[www.azcentral.com]


Rebuttal of this marathon argument ( which covered many confusingly emotive subjects but carefully avoided mention of the victims and their premature deaths) by the prosecution begins on Tuesday.

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Yakaru ()
Date: June 18, 2011 05:39PM

Thanks for all the updates, Stoic. It was certainly the worst piece of oratory I have ever seen, and missed many hours of it. People who didn't sit through any of it cannot imagine, and should not attempt imagining. Just like they attempted to bury the prosecution under an avalanche of paper work, they attempted to bury the jury under an avalanche of emotive rhetoric and libertarian arguments about free will and big government.

He clearly implied that Ray has every right to lie to people in order to get their money, then refuse to provide the services they paid for, free to manipulate and condition them to follow his, coupled with the lie he would keep them safe and it was not dangerous -- and the participants were free to cook themselves to death and kill themselves trying to save others.

And Ray didn't know people would die, and he had a waiver that told people they might die and they signed so they knew, even though he didn't because he didn't know it was deadly, even though the participants knew they were signing up for something deadly, but Ray didn't know that it was deadly...and you know what? That's what the Founding Fathers gave us.....

I don't think he uttered a single word to explain the actions of his client.

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 19, 2011 03:49AM

A succinct analysis of the confusing and emotive closing argument from Luis Li for the defence:

[spiritualityisnoexcuse.wordpress.com]


'Defense Attorney Luis Li then babbled for hours and hours and hours over two days. Part of the strategy was clearly to bore the jury into not paying attention, in the hope that they would not realize how much he is distorting and misrepresenting the evidence, and to give the impression that James Ray was actually defended.

The strongest aspect of Li’s argument was the “free will” gambit, that Ray didn’t physically prevent anyone from leaving, therefore the victims were all responsible for their own fate. Further, that Ray had no reason to expect that anyone would die, and didn’t know there was any problem until it was too late.

Those arguments should really have formed the entire basis of the defense, and I suspect that in effect that is really the line they have been banking on. All the toxins lunacy really done to put pressure on the state and bury them under an avalanche of paperwork (and then wait for them to make an error); and to eat up so much time that it would direct attention away from the facts of what happened.'

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 19, 2011 06:27AM

And still the fool twitters on:

[twitter.com]

'Everything around you is being projected upon the screen of your life, and your mind is the projector. Change the film.'

One has to wonder what fantasy film is currently playing in Deathray's head, that he is able to so completely avoid seeing the starkly real consequences of his own greed and power driven behaviour.

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 21, 2011 07:31AM

More news articles on the lengthy defence closing:

[www.abc15.com]


[insession.blogs.cnn.com]

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Re: James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: June 21, 2011 07:48PM

A vid from Salty Droid featuring highlights of the defence closing:

[saltydroid.info]

....and apparently James Ray is still sending out emails selling, as an affiliate, his buddy Proctor's latest LOA/'Secret' wonder product that will cure all ills that you didn't know you had.
Odd how not one of his 'true believing' buddies appeared even as a simple character witness in his defence.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2011 07:48PM by Stoic.

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