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Re: Ben Best, cryonics, where is the PROOF Ben Best is a pharmacist?
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 20, 2010 05:08AM

[www.benbest.com]
QUOTE: "I worked hard to support this life-style — as a pharmacist, taxi-driver, Teamster, computer operator and whatever"

[www.depressedmetabolism.com]
QUOTE: "We start off with an interview with Ben Best, president of the .... as a computer operator, tutor/teaching assistant and as a pharmacist..."

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[www.cicic.ca]
"The profession of pharmacist is regulated in Canada. This means that it is illegal to practise the profession or use the title of pharmacist without being licensed as a full member in a provincial or territorial regulatory body."



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/20/2010 05:11AM by The Anticult.

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: richiekgb ()
Date: September 21, 2010 08:50AM

[www.youtube.com]- all the videos i could find on the Alcor/Ted williams/dora kent frozen allegations -

And this: [www.charity-commission.gov.uk]

Thats the Charity that CRYONICSUK run - "

"Activities

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The objects set out in a charity's governing document can sometimes be vague, general or expressed in outdated language. The way a charity takes forward its objects may also be influenced by the resources they have available or are able to raise. This section of the Register is the trustees’ summary, in simple terms, of what the charity actually does as opposed to what their legal objects allow them to do.

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THE REGISTER OF CHARITIES – NOTES FOR USERS

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Charities are required to submit documents to the Charity Commission as follows:
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Charities with income of £10,000 or less

For financial years ending on or before 31 March 2009, charities with income £10,000 or less are not required to submit either an Annual Return or accounts. However, they are required to keep the details we hold about them on the Register up to date. To keep those details up to date we ask charities with income of £10,000 or less to submit an Annual Update. We expect charities to report changes, or confirm that there have been no changes, within 10 months of the end of their financial year, the same time allowed for the preparation of their accounts.

Changes for 2009 onwards

Charities with a financial year ending on or after 1st April 2009 are not required to send their Trustees' Annual Report and Accounts to the Commission if the charity's income for the financial period was £25,000 or less. Charities with an income of £25,000 or less will have the message ‘Not required’ for their accounts submissions. Charities with income between £10,001 and £25,000 are still required to send an Annual Return."

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SCAM ALERT: www.eucrio.eu EUCRIO a new cryonics scam hits Europe
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 25, 2010 09:49AM

You've heard of Euro-Pop now you have EUCRIO.

So they are going to charge you a base rate of $50 a month = $600 a year.
Then they are going to charge you many tens of THOUSANDS of dollars more. (this is all on top of any cryonics contract in the US).

Again, what is the price?
Answer: How much you got, sucka?

That is the business model. How much you got?

They say they have DOCTORS working for them? Notice how there is not ONE NAME on that website, of any "doctor" or real professional in anything?
EUCRIO is going to "secure a pronouncement of legal death as soon as such is possible".
This is very dangerous stuff.
Because EUCRIO and the other cryonics companies it is alleging to be hooked up with, will get a HUGE PAYOUT when you are declared DEAD. Conflict of interest much?

Note the other 3 cryonics companies are not mentioned by name?

Some people are on their death-bed for weeks, months.
They are going to have EUCRIO people all over Europe, allowed into hospitals? Are you kidding? The hospital and terminal wards will BAN them long before they get there, because of the liabilities of having a bunch of "cryonics" morticians hanging around the death bed, trying to get papers signed, waiting for the big-payout upon death.

This one is simply a brazen scam, looking for many tens of thousands of dollars per customer/corpse.





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[www.eucrio.eu] www.eucrio.eu/ David Styles General Manager, EUCRIO

Q6. What does it all cost?
A. EUCRIO charges a membership fee of €35/month, and then an extra fee per service, which each will run into the tens of thousands of euros. There are different levels of service, and different funding options available to cover these costs.

Our professionally trained teams will attend a call to "stand by" a terminally diagnosed patient's bedside, secure a pronouncement of legal death as soon as such is possible, perform initial cool-down while giving medications and continuing cardiac support throughout to avoid blood clots and circulate the medications properly; we will then provide a vitrification service to the patient, so that wherever possible, freezing damage will not occur. Finally, we cool down the patient to dry ice temperatures, and send them safely on their way to whichever of the three main cryonics storage service providers they have chosen, for the final cool-down to liquid nitrogen temperatures and long-term care.

The People

EUCRIO employs a wide variety of professionals: including physicians, perfusionists, emergency medical technicians, engineers and scientists, throughout the European Union. EUCRIO has staff members ready to intervene across the European Union and all are ready to respond to clients at all times (24 hours a day, 7 days per week).

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Suspended Animation's Report for CI-95 (Mr. Curtis Henderson)
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 25, 2010 09:58AM

Important review!


[cryomedical.blogspot.com]
Thursday, September 23, 2010
A Partial Review of Suspended Animation's Report for CI-95 (Mr. Curtis Henderson)

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: palehorse ()
Date: September 25, 2010 11:12PM

This message is for Shannon Blevins. A certain individual has received over 80 forwarded emails that uncover the scandalous adventures of some very high profile people in the cryonics world. To name a few individuals and companies are Ben Best, Jim Yount, Edgar Swank, Shannon Vyff, Amanda Blevins, Life Extension Foundation, Bill Faloon and many many others. It is my understanding that these emails suggest many acts of perversion, conversations with regards to sex with minors, photographs that were sent to cryonic officials in upper management as well as very explicit and perverted comments made by those officials.

Mr. Blevins, within the next few weeks a known “whistleblower” wants to interview you with the purpose of exposing some of these rats to government agencies and to the press. Can you still be reached at lord.vader1969@xxxxx.com ?

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Re: Suspended Animation's Report for CI-95 (Mr. Curtis Henderson)
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: September 25, 2010 11:29PM

Just to emphasise that the 'time of death' debate is still an huge and on-going controversy amongst medical professionals, particularly when so-called 'brain-death' is said to occur.

Let us also not forget that there are unscrupulous MD's who will do anything for a buck, even under the UK's NHS.
Harold Shipman, anyone?

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: richiekgb ()
Date: September 28, 2010 07:24AM

More on Eucrio - cryonics factshhet

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Cryonics, EUcrio, impersonating an ambulance? is that illegal?
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 28, 2010 12:58PM

Interesting stuff.
EUcrio is still in its earliest stages, and still very clumsy.
As these cryonics companies get more organized, more money starts flowing in, until the budgets are in the millions, like in the US.
Their stated goals are to get a small piece of the funeral market, and move into the billions of dollars. That is their stated objective.

Impersonating an ambulance, that can't be legal? [upload.wikimedia.org]

Anyone could buy an old stripped down ambulance, and have it repainted.
But it simply cannot be legal, to drive that around, and pick up corpses?

Its illegal to impersonate a doctor or a cop, or anything like that for obvious reasons.

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: richiekgb ()
Date: September 28, 2010 03:59PM

heres a real Charity Ambulance service staffed by trained volunteers/professionals for comparison: St Johns

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Re: Cryonics, Cult Movement or Ligit Science???
Posted by: Stoic ()
Date: September 29, 2010 12:52AM

The UK has private ambulance companies, though not very many. The mocked-up Freezer-mobile was sufficiently different from an NHS ambulance service vehicle to not be a problem, I would think.

The real comparison would be with a coroner's or undertakers vehicle which doesn't require anything special to be acceptable, since only a dead body is being transported. These are usually bog-standard vans painted in a dark and disceet manner.
Old NHS ambulances (stripped out) can be bought second-hand, calling it an ambulance is just to reassure and impress the living punters, I should imagine, not to actually carry out any procedures in transit.

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