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Re: Recovering from New Age Mumbo Jumbo
Posted by: Alex45 ()
Date: January 31, 2018 02:33PM

Nowadays, there are just too many theories, studies, beliefs, schools of thought, etc. on what is really healthy and what is not. Some work wonders for others and don't work at all for others. After one 'superfood' is lauded and bandied about as the ultimate panacea, another set of 'studies' will show up saying 'oops, that wasn't healthy after all... THIS is what's healthy.' It is never-ending. And if we follow and follow whatever we read and hear, we will end up going nuts.
So best thing is to simplify your life. Eat only what you need, not any more, take only what you need, nothing more. Be kind, honest and good. At some point sooner or later, we are going to leave this temporary body so there is no point trying to find immortality, or close to it, in this or that food or therapy or lifestyle. It is best to live as close to what's natural as what's possible and practical, and spend time looking for purpose and meaning in life. For if there is no meaning, there is no life.

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Re: Recovering from New Age Mumbo Jumbo
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: January 31, 2018 10:48PM

Friends, if you want to see what happens if a human being is born knowing
not with the mind but with the heart, someone who is totally unconditionally trusting of everyone and everything:

Go read about a condition called Williams Syndrome.

Persons with this condition are biologically incapable of distrust.

Persons they are born unconditionally trustful, wearing their
hearts on their sleeves.

What is the result:

Most persons with Williams Syndrome need ongoing protection because they know no boundaries, cannot distinguish between safe and unsafe and are vulnerable to
the worst forms of exploitation.

Journalist Jennifer Latson notes that the state of mind that characterizes Williams Syndrome is equated with holiness in many religions and cultures.

But what are the real world consequences of living this way every moment of one's life?

The Boy Who Loved Too Much by Jennifer Latson


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Associating with like minded friends is not the same as cult life
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: May 05, 2018 10:24PM

Escape the echo chamber

First you don’t hear other views. Then you can’t trust them. Your personal information network entraps you just like a cult



An ‘epistemic bubble’ is an informational network from which relevant voices have been excluded by omission. That omission might be purposeful: we might be selectively avoiding contact with contrary views because, say, they make us uncomfortable. As social scientists tell us, we like to engage in selective exposure, seeking out information that confirms our own worldview.

But that omission can also be entirely inadvertent. Even if we’re not actively trying to avoid disagreement, our Facebook friends tend to share our views and interests. When we take networks built for social reasons and start using them as our information feeds, we tend to miss out on contrary views and run into exaggerated degrees of agreement.

An ‘echo chamber’ is a social structure from which other relevant voices have been actively discredited.

Where an epistemic bubble merely omits contrary views, an echo chamber brings its members to actively distrust outsiders.

In their book Echo Chamber: Rush Limbaugh and the Conservative Media Establishment (2010), Kathleen Hall Jamieson and Frank Cappella offer a groundbreaking analysis of the phenomenon. For them, an echo chamber is something like a cult. A cult isolates its members by actively alienating them from any outside sources. Those outside are actively labelled as malignant and untrustworthy. A cult member’s trust is narrowed, aimed with laser-like focus on certain insider voices.



In epistemic bubbles, other voices are not heard; in echo chambers, other voices are actively undermined. The way to break an echo chamber is not to wave “the facts” in the faces of its members. It is to attack the echo chamber at its root and repair that broken trust.

This is how exit counseling works - by providing information that a cult has intentionally concealed from you.

Recruitment into a cult is where things get interesting.

A common way for aggressive cults to recruit is to market themselves to like minded groups.

If a group is not cultic, you can enjoy the group and continue to enjoy your relationships with friends and family who are not interested in participating. You will not be led to regard them as inferior or threatening to your welfare.

A cultic group may, in the early stages of your recruitment, seem just another like minded group (epistemic bubble). Over time, you are socialized to depend more and more on the group for everything you need, to the point where you incur significant "exit costs" if you consider leaving or are threatened with loss of favor.

Cults differ from like minded groups in that cults are not just good at attracting people; cults, unlike other interesting events, set things up so that leaving or disagreeing has high exit costs -- something you are NOT told about when you first get involved.

Think of the old ads for Roach Motels - Ya can check in but ya can't check out.

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Re: Recovering from New Age Mumbo Jumbo
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: May 17, 2018 09:42PM

‘If you are going to give such extreme dietary advice, you’ve got to have proof. Otherwise, all you are doing is stoking fear about a food group most people shouldn’t have to worry about.’

The Dirty Truth about "Clean Eating" The Daily Mail - UK


"If the end goal really is just good health, why does the focus seem to be less on reducing sugar intake and more about promoting expensive, less accessible forms of it? As Alan Levinovitz confirms, "the biggest difference between forms of sugar is their price and the foods they appear in." If health food advocates take us down only the most expensive and exclusionary paths to health, we ought to question their integrity."

The Unhealthy Truth Behind Wellness and "Clean Eating" - Vice


I Escaped the Cult of Wellness
"Wild Wild Country" reminds me of my upbringing.

Lily Diamond

May 17 2018, 5:27am


"...I watched my mother grapple with the sturdiness of her own beliefs in the face of death. I realized that many of the ideas I took as my own because they sounded good were just exactly that: palatable sound bytes that translated well to the western mind. I needed to find my own answers, and I wanted to do so without the obligation of broadcasting those answers to the public. I stopped teaching and returned to my writing desk to ask more questions than I could answer..."

For the full article, read here:


The Unhealthy Truth Behind 'Wellness' and 'Clean Eating': My eating disorder had once looked very different, and then I found wellness—but I was not well

Ruby Tandoh May 13 2016, 6:45am


So what if a few people needlessly spend a bit more and get nourished a bit less, chasing after a gluten-free miracle that may never come? That needn't affect the rest of us. Except it does. The language used in wellness circles doesn't just point to the ostensible effects of gluten on our health—it soars clear of dietary science and straight into another realm altogether. On popular wellness blogs, the gluten I've heard about is "evil," "poison," "contaminating," and "toxic." There's even a leading Australian gluten-free site called This isn't just about nutrition, it's about morality, and when food becomes imbued with this kind of scandalizing language, the dinner table becomes a minefield.

I spoke about this purity fetish to Nigella Lawson, whose guilt-free approach to eating helped to reconfigure my attitude to food when I was at my most vulnerable. "I despair of the term 'clean eating,'" she said, "though I actually like the food that comes under that banner. ['Clean eating'] necessarily implies that any other form of eating—and consequently the eater of it—is dirty or impure and thus bad, and it's not simply a way of shaming and persecuting others, but leads to that self-shaming and self-persecution that is forcibly detrimental to true healthy eating."



But between the lines of the wellness cookbooks, I read a different story, and it's not just gluten in the firing line. In Madeleine Shaw's first cookbook alone, the vocabulary used to describe countless foods, and the way they make us feel, suggests a less accepting view of health: "junk," "sluggish," "bad," "foe," "cheat," and "fat" are all words she uses. She also reminds us that our friends might try to sabotage our diets, but that we must learn to ignore them. Ella Mills begs us to treat ourselves when the craving takes us, but that given enough time, those treat foods will begin to seem "kind of gross, actually."

It gives rise to a kind of all-or-nothing approach to nutrition where all the delicious nuance of cooking, eating, and pleasure is brusquely swept aside. When I asked dietitian and advocate of the Health at Every Size campaign, Michelle Allison, about this dichotomy, she explained: "There is no third option presented by diet culture—there is only black or white, good or bad, dieting or off-the-wagon... And many people flip between the two states like a light switch, on or off, for more or less their entire lives." Nobody sums up the totalitarianism of wellness better than Deliciously Ella herself, though. "It's not a diet—it's a lifestyle." And that's just the catch.

For the full article, go here:


Wellness Is Mostly an Expensive Fantasy

"If it requires moon dust and dropping a grand a week at Whole Foods, it's out of reach."

Shayla Love

Aug 23 2017, 9:00am


Why we fell for clean eating

The oh-so-Instagrammable food movement has been thoroughly debunked – but it shows no signs of going away. The real question is why we were so desperate to believe it.

By Bee Wilson


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You can eat as clean as you like but it still comes out smelling the same.

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