adi da / love ananda
Posted by: greg hamond ()
Date: October 07, 2007 04:12AM

a friend was in his group and left.......he confirmed whats on web about this guy....who has many names.....anyone here been around ADI DA ???

DIRECTLY ?????????

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adi da / love ananda
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: October 07, 2007 08:47PM

There is a discussion forum concerning Adi Da located here. At some point the owner wants to sell the site. So you might try and register now and then correspond with members by e-mail to see if they can bring you further up to date

[www.lightgate.net]

The left hand sidebar lists additional resources.

Broken Yogi was a close member of Adi Da's group for decades. It cost him a lot to realize it was time to leave. He has detailed info on his blog. The hostile responses he got are representative of the group mindset.

[brokenyogi.blogspot.com]

Adi Da currently goes by the name of Adi Da Samiraj. Every so often, in parts of the country where seekers congregate, one runs into posters advertising lectures dedicated to his legacy.)

Mark Miller, a former disciple, has some insightful reflections here:

[lightmind.com]

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adi da / love ananda
Posted by: greg hamond ()
Date: October 09, 2007 01:17AM

THANKS For all the info...i was horrified but not surprised when i googled SPIRITAUL MASTERS and 1 or 2 other terms...they are sites for his disinformation!!!!!!!
also i went to a lecture maybe 10 years ago of another teacher and outside a follower of adi was trying to pass out flyers for them !!!!
in LA last time i looked they had a center near bodhi tree bookstore....

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adi da / love ananda
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: October 09, 2007 04:54AM

They capitalize on two things: Harmful people and groups often re-write their history and exploit that most seekers will not fact check.

Rewriting History

1) Even in relation to ghastly scandals, public memory is short. All one has to do is wait a long time, then offer sanitized histories of controversial organizations and groups.

Often, names of organizations or controversial leaders are changed, and the actual histories of the group become part of the 'family secret' that is with held from newcomers.

Once you get emotionally involved, you have formed friendships, often initially seem to benefit from what the group has to offer. Outer circle members, especially those who are sweet people and have businesses that are likely to attract recruits (eg teachers at yoga studios), may never be told the true and ugly history of an organization. Those in the outer circles will have NO frame of reference for any evidence of abuse and will be horrified, even indignant if any suggestion is made that thier beloved group has a secret history and track record of abuse that is well hidden.

Often, inner circle members who directly serve the guru are the ones who know the inside dope. They may be specially recruited into this position if they show evidence of having codependent talents--as many do who seek healing through spiritual venues. Once people join the inner circle of a group they may be led to see and do things that leave them ashamed to leave and they are trapped. They may rationalize the abuse they suffer as evidence that they are priviliged, and tough enough to see the guru's cruelty as actually a blessing and that anyone concerned about cruelty is either ungrateful or a weak and unworthy worm.

[i:88816295b6](Note: it is amazing to see how often in supposedly spiriutal organizations, a sophisticated rhetoric of invalidation is used to re-frame cruelty as a blessing and that compassion and honesty are re-framed as evidence of inferiority and weakness. If you can let a guru convince you that shit is sugar that proves you are highly evolved and that anyone who goes 'yuck!' is inferior.)[/i:88816295b6]

Here are examples of gurus whose followers re-wrote history. THey get away with this because so very few spiritual seekers know that real spiritual traditions actually value discernment and prize critical thinking as essential for any aspirant. It is those who create bogus traditions who devalue critical thinking.

Rajneesh, the guy who collected Rolls Royces and tried to affect a local election in Oregon by having followers taint a salad bar at a restaurant with salmonella to keep townspeople home sick so that ashramites could cast the deciding votes---he died and his successors have changed his name to 'Osho.'

Adi Da is now known as Adi Da Samiraj. He hides out on an island in the South Pacific, waited on hand and foot by devotees. Few are allowed to see him until they are so devoted (and preferably wealthy) that they are capable of rationalizing anything. His trashed physical appearance is disguised on the publicity posters.

Siddha/SYDA yoga, founded by Muktananda, did all it could to revise its history by destroying past issues magazines. When one of its gurus (Nityananda) was purged, all of his pictures were destroyed en-masse.

Few Bother to Fact Check

2) Most spiritual seekers are socialized to be naive and trusting and to consider any sort of prudent fact-checking a 'negative' state of mind.

There is an amazing double standard. It is considered wise and praiseworthy to consult Consumer Reports and fact check big ticket purchases such as a car, laptop, house, etc.

But any suggestion that it is just as wise to check the background of someone who proposes to alter your mind and belief system--people screetch that that is negative and horrid and that 'you have to take a leap of faith.'

Come on. Would we let just anyone log on and re-format the hard drive on our computers?

At least if such a person were incompetant and messed our computer up, that sitaution could be fixed. But if someone messes up our minds, that is hard to repair, maybe in some cases impossible. Family relations can be destroyed beyond repair, too.

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adi da / love ananda
Posted by: greg hamond ()
Date: October 09, 2007 11:46AM

one reviewer did say SWAMI MUKTANANDA told him he was a scammer but they dont say where and when this happened...so who knows!!!!!

the other reviews..its like they prepped to say overly positive things......"his great sacrifice,,,despite the fact he abused me" or something like that,,.....see the reviews at amazon.....

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Re: adi da / love ananda
Posted by: greg hamond ()
Date: October 17, 2007 10:53AM

The problem is that Scientology was big there and Franklin was threatened personally by them.
maybe scientology isnt all bad...haha
DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT ADI DA AND SCIENTOLOGY CONNECTION????

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Re: adi da / love ananda
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: October 18, 2007 03:12AM

" DOES ANYONE KNOW ABOUT ADI DA AND SCIENTOLOGY CONNECTION???? "

Here's what you do:

Go to Google.com and push the advanced search option.

Type scientology into the 'all of the words' slot.

Then, type Adi Da into the exact phrase slot.

Then push the grey bar that reads 'Google search'.

Then, with your own two eyes, read the material that is given in the citations.

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Re: adi da / love ananda THANKS
Posted by: greg hamond ()
Date: October 20, 2007 07:47AM

HERES WHAT I FOUND...LITTLE ON SCIENTOLOGY BUT

"Apparently, Adi Da set up a bookstore, financed by a follower, in the 1970's on Melrose Avenue in Los Angeles. This was a success, and soon his movement was buying property. It has gone through several metamorphoses, and today is called Adidam, the Way of the Heart"
AS OF 2007 HIS FAITHFUL HAVE A PLACE.....ON MELROSE !!!!!!!
I SPOKE TO SEVERAL NON believers who met him in his earliest days....say it was...good or lukewarm !!!!
perhaps some of his strongest BELIEVERS are those who have never met him!!!! hahaha

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