Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: April 11, 2023 05:09PM
Truth wins Wrote:
> The fact that we were not even phased by the
> parasite cleanses, end of time pandemic scenarios,
> hearing disciples get crushed by him in lectures,
> accepting he married his disciple’s wife, the
> multiple vaccines to be around him, if you get a
> tattoo who must stay a way a few years from him…,
> tells me I was also mental.
> I have met a few people who ran away much faster.
> How is is it that we were fine with such a crazy
The initial lack of compulsion to wear Hindu or rather ISKCON reformed attire may have been attractive - not dissociating from society. Less barrier. School and work issues. This is important. Ultimately - at least in SoI / SIF / MC in Poland it was a loss, the truth is that the sect will not take care of you in the end. Above is the help of the family, friends from the sect, or friends other than the sect. There was a caste of initiates in the sect, families, as described by one of the former members in Poland in the comments to the above profile.
Interestingly, there are known cases of treating frivolous disciples by other gurus, also very positive ones. One of them showed a long-term tolerance that had to end somewhere. Divorce was calm, serious. No profanity, no emotions, with letter of serious explanation. According to the testimony - class, seriousness, respect for both sides but also firmness. final. SoI is plain rudeness.
> Then he will throw a flower at you the next day
> while you crawl like a wounded dog and utter jaya
> srila prahbufraud.
Flowers? What about love in social insurance - job in one of the cult's businesses? Isnt' it more practical usefull and tangible than some flower?
Lying in SoI is fundamental.
The devotees working in the printing house (Poland, first formally a firm of Soi) were shunned, especially in the early years by Yudhisthira dasa. People know it. Lousy salaries. They put money into "their guru's project". Yudhistirha das would drive up in an expensive car, expensive drees, and push them around. They were able to work at night 24 hours a day. Sleep by the machine. After that, working in shifts, i.e. after night work, is normal, just like in printing houses.
But then a rumor went around that "guru" Chris Butler told Vishnu das that he wanted the people at the printing house to earn a normal or good wage...
What????? Normal or good wage? The essence of hypocrisy, denial, lies. The commercial printing market in the 1990s and early 2000s was very difficult in Cracow, Polad. A small company with 1 weak machine didn't stand a chance. Where was this money supposed to come from? Would Yudhisthira das add his own? Vishnu das? According to testimonies, they traded in the bazaar to survive and worked in a printing house. Some left
money there but did not get shares. Another thing is that the printing house printed SoI/SIF publications. So much the worse for wages and profitability. However, later, when it was private and stood on its feet thanks to a narrow specialization, it was still milked in subsidies and only improved - paradoxically - when a external to the cult investor came in and imposed a muzzle. paradox - it was better for the company. Former employees also commented on what they knew and it spread a bit among the former members.
Due to problems with shares in the commercialized, already privatized business, the marriage of the initiated people broke up.One of the initiated spouses in the US made a fortune quickly. In Poland - poverty or at least work from the knees to the top of the head. Where did this "guru" live? In Hawai'i..
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2023 05:25PM by Culthusiast.