> Friends, have a look at descriptions of what
> happens to us when our serotonin
> levels are elevated.
This is very interesting. It just discusses it from too high a dose of SSRIs, but I wonder if there's research out there that says you can get it from certain types of yoga and meditation.
> IMO this matches up very well with descriptions of
> 'kriyas' and with 'awakening kundalini'.
> Some claim excess kundalini is caused by
> "energetic overload" not by excess serotonin, that
> the two are different.
Yes I can see that, and I started to experience that. I don't understand why there's absolutely no warning in the yoga communities about the possible dangers of Kundalini yoga, Kundalini Awakening (I've seen it online as Kundalini Syndrome), certain types of meditation, etc.
I also don't understand why the therapists and psychologists are not privy to this, either.
I've read of people having breakdowns during silent retreats, and the people running them have zero training in what to do if that happens.
Unfortunately victim blaming happens.
And yet there are many people out there who want to awaken their Kundalini. I don't want to awaken my Kundalini, balance my chakras, or anything like that. The little I did made me irritable or hypomanic like (for lack of a better word). I just want to understand how to do basic yoga, basic meditation, and basic mindfulness without this sort of thing occurring. And I want to know why warnings and regulation aren't out there.
> Too often teachers tell us to keep on doing these
> exercises, which will
> only make things worse, not better.
Yes I've read that and I've had that happen, but I caught it early enough.
> There is considerable literature about drug
> induced serotonin syndrome.
> We need to get information about serotonin
> syndrome induced by too strenuous
> breathing/kundalini practices.
YES! I agree whole-heartedly. Therapists and psychologists are encouraging yoga, meditation, and mindfulness but they need to be made aware that many of the teachings out there that seem harmless are actually very harmful and in a completely unregulated industry.
I even specifically told the instructor of the breathing workshop that I had a bad experience with Kundalini Yoga, I needed to know if this was a relaxing type of non-activating breathing and nothing like breath of fire. She assured me that her breathwork was nothing like that, was completely safe, and would free me from blocked trauma, etc. There are many who lie just to make money, but I think in this case she was completely delusional.
> Note: I live near a medical school. Once I had a
> conversation with one of the adjunct professors on
> the psychiatry teaching staff. He told me there
> have been cases reported of mild serotonin
> syndrome, for which the remedy is to decrease
> dosage of the SSRI (selective serotonin uptake
> inhibitor/aka anti depressant)
I can see that. Also mixing SSRIs with certain meds may cause Serotonin Syndrome but I don't know how common that is or how mild or severe it'd be. It's just something my doctor told me.
Does he mean people on any sort of SSRI shouldn't be doing Kundalini yoga, meditation, etc.? I also wonder what his thoughts are of the possible harms these things can do, with or without SSRIs. I'm on a very low dose SSRI so I would assume this has nothing to do with my SSRI. So many people are on them anyways.
> Persons whose serotonin was mildly excessive for
> their needs reported
> lack of motivation, lack of interest in anything,
> lack of enjoyment.
That's what I've experienced since leaving my two "soft cults". I do not think they're from too much serotonin. I don't think I have enough serotonin.
> This to me resembles reports by persons who get
> heavily involved practices recommended by a guru
> or yoga teacher and then report lack of passion,
> lack of motivation, etc --- and are taught that
> this is a sign of spiritual progress!
YES this was my experience with my spiritual group. I was taught that it meant my ego was decreasing and my spirit was awakening.
> To me, the take home lesson is that anything
> powerful enough to be beneficial, is powerful
> enough to induce adverse side effects.
Good message. And everything in moderation, as my doctor always tells me. Too much of something good is no longer good.
> Any yoga teacher, breathing teacher, meditation
> instructor who cannot describe the adverse side
> effects of the practice and who will not tell you
> what signs
> indicate you are overdoing and must stop, is unfit
> to teach, period.
I have not met one around here who has done this. Have you?
> For further reading, have a peek here.
Thanks for the interesting links. Is it just TM, or other types of meditation?
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