I recall reading and replying to this thread some time ago, it is interesting to see the update Jupiter has posted, and I feel sad to read about those body jibes, it is no consolation but worth noting that peoples name calling (and accusations) is where that person is in themselves, it is never about the person targeted. Words belong with their speaker. I am also sad to re-read corboys experience. Therapy is not always beneficial it’s a fact.
I wanted to highlight this...
If humour is weaponised then so is its absence. The demand for seriousness and gravity at all times is just another form of control.
It is important to me because this pole opposite seriousness, it is found in many of those adherents of various groups and those who do not share the same serious outlook are outcast due to the threat.. fun is void,
..however when the leader / teacher / guru / or any other affiliated person in some degree of power over the group is not serious, displaying the thread topic manipulation already demonstrated, then this is perfectly fine, they are the idol who can do no wrong.
Using my own experience as an example, I have used comedy recently on this forum, but as a means to highlight how we are all different (and that’s ok), to try and lighten seriousness, and in standing up for myself. I felt it the nicer option over anything else for the classist treatment I was receiving for having a different outlook.
I was quickly ganged up on and made “wrong” by another who did not appreciate my lack of seriousness toward a specific guru teaching, simply because I had a different outlook and stood up for myself. They even threatened me with reporting me to that guru, as if I should be frightened (I understand, as they are under the same person).
In these particular instance I see no problem with humour if describing my differences, a person is dishing out hurt and expects no one to stand up to them, though making random jokes to weaponise someone as described here is a different story.
Here is a link to what brought me here, which is corboys response to a post I made in recovery:
In it, I pose the question: Is the contempt shown towards abusive behaviour more important than the abusive behaviour itself?
In the very relevant case of cults and manipulative / abusive groups and settings? No, it isn’t.
This is how weaponisation takes place, the focus on the actual abuse is removed and placed onto another through the weaponisation against themselves, deflecting away from the original source who / which continues on with what they are doing.
I personally, (and based on my small knowledge of the matter) currently connect the same weaponisation dynamic through observation in the situation with Ms. Britney Spears and her conservatorship, which is for anyone interested, a good (yet v. sad) example to have a look into it and see this sad reality in action.
Please note that I am not a professional, i can be considered as a stranger on the internet, with a certificate in life experience alone, which is more than enough for me.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/05/2021 03:12AM by facet.