Survived The Billy Meier experience,
Posted by: LWFlouisa ()
Date: June 02, 2019 01:34PM

Worth noting, FIGU is a UFO cult in Switzerland. Often discussed informally, or not at all in the UFO community. Most of them treat as that estranged cousin nobody wants to talk about it.

In life, I'm a developer in artificial intelligence. I write science fiction and fantasy. So one might wonder, how would you get caught up in the FIGU stuff? Well it was a gradual thing.

Although my partner (who had ... issues of her own) noted it was my approach that may have helped me leave, even with some PTSD.

(1. I never fully attached myself to the group.
(2. Generally a lot of their believes I found unpalatable. (So it was easier to leave, being a member that was on the periphery.)
(3. I had dodged a bullet with other cults before.

I'm still not sure entirely sure whether The Satanic Temple is a cult, not because they don't fulfill the requirements of a religion (you can have an atheistic religion, contrary to what New Atheists might tell you).

But surviving FIGU has made me view all other groups with suspicion.

So if anyone else survived FIGU / Billy Meier, I'm happy to give whatever support I can.

I still kind of fear retaliation, but it's largely melted away.

What I'm doing now: Currently learning about and researching anarchism, and anarchism mode of thought. But I'm absolutely determined to study this stuff alone, without help.



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Re: Survived The Billy Meier experience,
Posted by: Mvid ()
Date: June 07, 2019 07:18PM

That's a really intriguing post! A few questions.

1. How do you think FIGU fits the definition of cult, or how would you define "cult" to include FIGU?
2. What do you mean with join? Did you become a passive member? Did you go there at some point?
3.I'm assuming you studied the information for a long time before joining? What prompted you to become a passive member (assuming that's what you did) and what prompted you to stop being one?
4. What do you mean with "surviving" FIGU? That's especially intriguing. Did you face danger from reading the materials online? From being a passive member? From visiting FIGU physically?
5. Who do you fear retaliation from? Do you mean retaliation for simply terminating your passive membership, or for something you did when you visited there?

From the way you speak it seems unlikely that you were ever a core group member that would have resided at the center and had personal connections with the people there, so it's really difficult to tell where you are coming from...

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Re: Survived The Billy Meier experience,
Posted by: LWFlouisa ()
Date: June 08, 2019 03:59AM

1. How do you think FIGU fits the definition of cult, or how would you define "cult" to include FIGU?

Not so much a core group member, as part of an American division that was beginning to splinter off from it.

2. What do you mean with join? Did you become a passive member? Did you go there at some point?

More accurate to say a passive member. Ken wanted me and kept trying to persuade me to become an active member.

3.I'm assuming you studied the information for a long time before joining? What prompted you to become a passive member (assuming that's what you did) and what prompted you to stop being one?

Before that point I had read Jim Mars books on UFOs, and assumed the stories about Billy Meier were greatly exagerated. But there is a lot of granularity I don't even think Meier intended.

4. What do you mean with "surviving" FIGU? That's especially intriguing. Did you face danger from reading the materials online? From being a passive member? From visiting FIGU physically?

There was never any explicit danger, but rather the feeling of uncertainty, and being stalked at one point silenced me for a while. (Although I never came back to the group.

5. Who do you fear retaliation from? Do you mean retaliation for simply terminating your passive membership, or for something you did when you visited there?

Mainly from people I was most immediatly involved with online. For example some of the people I knew actually followed me on some language learning sites.


One other disturbing factoid, they were really obsessed with learning German. There was also a very very strong anti-LGBT current in it. And at one point they had preached that the Plejaren (apparently that's what the ETs preferred to be called, not Plaiadeans). And that they had "bred out" LGBT people from their society.

There were other reasons i stopped being a passive member, but such implied non-support for my own variation of LGBT status was a major factor.

The fear of relaiation was so strong, that when I actually go around to writing my own memoir of that particular group, I had changed its name. (I'm not entirely sure if the new group I'm in is in fact actually a cult, or if they use the word cult in a tongue in cheek manner.)



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Re: Survived The Billy Meier experience,
Posted by: Mvid ()
Date: June 08, 2019 07:43AM

I know that there have already been several attempts to create a splinter FIGU group in the US, but they have all failed because certain members were assuming leadership and becoming too authoritarian. So, probably for the same reason that made you feel that you were in a cult. It's also strange that you were being persuaded to become a part of the group (from what I can understand) while having so little knowledge of the case. The way I see it, such group would be formed by enthusiastic people who had already read all available English translations, which would have already kept them busy for a very long time and allowed them to make up their minds about everything.
As for LGBT variations, certain passages from (supposedly) earlier prophets, such as Jmmanuel and others, are definitely anti-homosexuality. FIGU's current stance is tolerant and accepting of homosexuals. Homophobes will probably be able to find something they can cling to. Other people, including homosexuals that I know of, seem to accept and integrate the different and potentially confusing references without viewing them as personal attacks.

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Re: Survived The Billy Meier experience,
Posted by: LWFlouisa ()
Date: June 08, 2019 08:29AM

It does make my wonder how they plan to resolve that issue if they're accepting now? Of homosexuality.

I wonder if that's what drove me to anarchism eventually? I don't know, which such a weird life, everything seems connected.

I tried reading the passages, but I was also having PTSD ... from ... some other issues not entirely unrelated to the UFO topic.

Yea Jmmanuel was kind of their stand in for Star Trek jesus, or at least it seemed like to me.

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