> JS is in a constant state of bliss (or so he
> claims in the same interview linked above):
Since my guru erased the veil I am in
> savikalpa samadhi all the time.
> I'm not entirely sure what savikalpa samadhi is,
> because there seem to be different definitions,
> but their common factor is that it is a state of
> bliss. Is that really what we see and hear when we
> look at and listen to JS and his rants? Is this a
> man who's constantly in bliss?
The two Samadhi of savikalpa and nirvakalpa are taught be Sri Adi Shankara, in Drik Dryhsa Viveka. Samadhi is very profound concentration. Savikalpa is with thought as an aid, nivakalpa is without.
Samadhi is also taught in Panchadasi. Remember the text that Sattva says, Swartz' commentray is better than the original. Lol.
He is wrong is his teachings. A person will not be in savikalpa samadhi all the time. It comes, and it goes. As does nirvakalpa.
However, he is showing something that is true. In savikalpa samadhi, conditioning is still present. So if he thinks that this is what he thinks it is, that is due to his wrong teachings. It is not what he is alluding to, removing the veil, enlightenment. So if he is in this, and claiming it, that is NOT enlightenment.
He is confused as he was taught one way by Swami Chinmayananda, more mystical, which places samadhi at the top. However, Swami Dayananda taught the Shankara way. Guru and then scripture, i.e knowledge. At the top.
For the enlightened person, they are sahaja samadhi. And it is here that conditioning does not exist. Or if it does, it is not acted upon.
I will say, perhaps a little clumsy, but it is correct, in order:
1. Savikalpa Samadhi
2. Nivakalpa Samadhi
3. Sahaja Samadhi.
I want to point out, that none of these are needed for enlightenment. Samadhi is not needed. knowledge is. The first two samadhi are useful for the listening phase, sravana. The last one is a product of the knowledge of enlightenment.
What he thought he was teaching when he spoke of savikalpa samadhi, should have been in fact sahaja samadhi. They are very different.
With Sahaja samadhi, the enlightened person has dis-identified with the body and mind. This is at the congitive level. Can everyone see why I highlight Shiningworld's wrong teaching on managing life internally? Such as in guna managements, and inherent conditioning like vasanasa.
As the understanding is clear for the enlightened person, they are in SAHAJA samadhi. That means they remember the teaching all the time. And here is Zizliz point validated by Vedanta.
This remembrance is natural. It doesn't matter what up's and down's are caused by karma, the enlightened person remembers the teachings. I can tell that personally, in private, James and Isabella often to do not be like this. I don't judge that, it just makes a point.
As the enlightened person is in Sahaja Samadhi all the time, this means they never lose sight of the teaching. I will say that outwardly they will appear to be dharmic. It is the default way. And as I said to some former Shiningworld members yesterday, after 50 years, once would think conditioning was addressed fully by Swartz.
For the enlightened person, every perception is samadhi. They do not lose sight they are limitless.
Regarding Swartz' claiming to be enlightened in front of Swami Chinmayananda. I cannot speak negatively about Swamiji (unlike Swartz has), I can reiterate a point. That the, erm, most prominent student in the Chinmaya mission, Swami Dayananda, who was due to take over the whole thing, he did not attain enlightenment after 10 years. So, and oxygen bottle carrier, did, after two years. Very convenient to claim that.
I don't know what the big deal is claiming it anyhow. The enlightened person is humble. And they are certainly nor special. Nor above anyone else. That does not make sense. They do not sit in glory, as Shiningworld keeps posting these student adorations. Another one or two yesterday.
To be honest, for the enlightened person, a sense of 'I' and 'Mine' goes.
What I have shared here, is vedanta. When we look at what Zizliz, a former student has shared here, does that tally up with James Swartz?
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/03/2020 08:58PM by earthquake.