Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Ananas ()
Date: April 20, 2019 04:34PM

This might have been posted before, "Questioning Mooji" just shared a link to an article on PsychCentral "14 Ways Narcissists Can Be Like Cult Leaders"


And yes, every single point fits M and his movement.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Ananas ()
Date: April 20, 2019 07:09PM

One of Henri's videos is getting a lot of attention 27.280 views so far:


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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: rickarcher ()
Date: April 21, 2019 02:21AM

It was mentioned in this thread that I have deleted some pro-Mooji comments in the BatGap Community Forum. I haven't, and I'm quite sure my volunteer moderator hasn't. There are 1.1K comments in that thread, and I've only read a few. I certainly haven't deleted any, pro or con. Just wanted to set the record straight.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: April 21, 2019 03:04AM

To whom it may concern:

Henry Jolicoeur behaves like an Internet troll.

He seems to troll threads to feed his ego and berate people.

It appears to be time to ban him from this message board due to complaints.

Please message me if there any further problem.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Sahara71 ()
Date: April 21, 2019 05:21AM

Dear Rick Archer,

thank you for confirming that you do not delete any comments form the BATGAP discussions. This is very reassuring to know, as censorship has become a bit of a problem with discussions about Mooji, in general.

The BATGAP Fb community page is a very open forum for sharing views on all things spiritual.


Some of my own comments 'disappeared' from the discussion on Mooji, but this must have been due to the original poster deleting their own comments. I can't quite work out how this happens, but never-the-less it happens. It's interesting how Mooji supporters and their comments disappear under pressure to answer the difficult questions! (and a little bit frustrating)

Thank you Rick Archer.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Sahara71 ()
Date: April 21, 2019 05:37AM

Ananas Wrote:
> From what I have seen in Sahaja, I do not think
> one of his longterm and close sangha members would
> tell the truth. They simply cannot! Because they
> do not see it anymore, everything is so twisted.
> They are so heavily conditioned to lie, one of
> them even said: "I have to lie for TRUTH at least
> 3 times per day". So that is the norm. In my
> opinion all his close devotees have a background
> of abuse and childhood trauma, which made them
> easily accessible for M's manipulation.

Don't worry too much Ananas, the main thing is that these cult people will make extremely unreliable witnesses and this is something a magistrate and the lawyers for the defendant would see straight up.

"I have to lie for TRUTH at least 3 times per day"

WTF?????? Imagine one of these zombies coming out with that little gem on the witness stand? Seriously, they will probably come out with something even worse than that.... and these are people on Moo's side.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Sahara71 ()
Date: April 21, 2019 06:19AM

Looks like the Questioning Mooji Fb page has been deleted!

Perhaps as a result of legal threats, but who really knows?

Watch and see what else gets taken down in the next 24 hours....

Joan Tollifson seems to have purged most of the Moo content from her Fb page.... as far as I can see.

Still, she hasn't changed her charming review of one of Moo's books, where she states of Mooji:

It seems to be no secret that he has had romantic relationships with young women who are also devotees, which raises a red flag in many people's minds, but I don't see anything inherently abusive about it.


Lets wait and see if this statement suddenly disappears without trace form Joan's review.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2019 06:33AM by Sahara71.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: PapajisaysNO ()
Date: April 21, 2019 08:00AM

Yes Ananas,

I too have heard Mooji say in satsang “sometimes truth has to lie.”

It’s why they lose their compassion and ability to see what is really happening in Sahaja.

They surrender to a false Master and they are done.

If they see through him, they live in limbo because he doesn’t admit it. They live in constant self doubt.

It’s all a shame.

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2019 08:02AM by PapajisaysNO.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 21, 2019 10:00AM

(For purposes of comparison, not for preaching)

“sometimes truth has to lie”?

In the Abrahamic religions there is no version of this whatsoever.

The core text used by the London house church would probably have been
some version of the Hebrew and Greek Scriptures.

Matthew 5:37


Because of their poetry and cultural impact, here's the King James version:

The Ten Commendments from Exodus:


To repeat, in the Abrahamic religions, there is *no* place for any teaching
that "sometimes the truth has to lie".

Not for Crazy Wisdom, either. In the context of the Abrahamic religions madness an affliction, something that alienates us from human fellowship.

To be a guru is to be alienated from human fellowship as well.

There has been a recognition of holy madness, but the true holy fool served God and helped, not exploited, but helped
the community.

The true holy fool was capable of love, capable of rejoicing with and lamenting for fellow humans and the human family.

The true holy fool suffered the consequences of his or her behaviors, and did not try to escape the these - and did not shift the misfortunes onto others.

Rather, the true holy fools take the pain of the community upon themselves. They allow themselves to be misunderstood and laughed at.

All this is different from commercial gurus.

For further edification read the Russian Orthodox stories of the holy fools.

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: PapajisaysNO ()
Date: April 21, 2019 10:22AM


It looks like Joan just loves Mooji and everything he does is just fine. I don’t see how that statement helps him though. At least not to wise eyes.

Too bad legal action may have caused the Questioning Mooji page to shut down. I saw an attorney had tried to get a hold of that page and posted it a while back on here.

At least this forum isn’t afraid of Mooji’s attorneys and is easily enough found on a google search.

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