What to do with the information about Gary Smith?
Its up to each person to decide.

On the farthest level, former members of the Gentle Wind Project cult, reported the activities to the attorney general who shut them down and liquidated them.
Why? Because they were claiming to cure cancer with a hockey puck from a alien spaceship.
A total scam and fraud, simply to make money, like these other groups. Its just a scam run by scammers.
[www.culteducation.com]


So since this "Gary Smith" group is also claiming to cure cancer, AIDS, and everything else, if they are breaking the law about medical claims, they could be reported.
That is why they talk about signing their Waiver, which will say their treatments don't actually work.
Same old scamola.

But, since they are making medical claims to cure cancer all over the place, if those potentially illegal medical claims for healing are organized and reported, someone could get into very hot water for exploiting sick people.

Or if more information comes out from former members about the sect, it can be posted in public, to educate the general public about the scam.

People can go to the local media, or media that is connected with the story.


A concerned person could post 10 links a day to this thread, using all the keywords for Gary Smith and his groups. Once there are more than a few hundred links to a thread, the internet search engines give that page a high ranking, and people can find it.
People can post evidence of the scam and links all over the place, so at least the public gets a heads-up to another internet money-making scam using likely illegal cancer cure claims.

This one is not a big sophisticated sect, which has all the ducks in a row. Many other big sects have parsed their language carefully, to infer healings from cancer, but not actually claim the cure, as they know its illegal to do that.
So this fringe sect is pretty much wide-open, as its managed to stay under the radar.

Just watch the probably illegal medical claims on their websites vanish very soon, and be replaced with more vague wording. No sect leader wants the Attorneys General on their case.

If someone reading this forum, has been scammed for many thousands of dollars for bogus "cancer cures" from someone in Oregon, often something can be done about it.
As has been shown in other situations, when someone makes a bogus cancer cure claim in the USA, and takes a large amount of money from people who are sick, that's fraud.

So the complaints can be made, and if the authorities determine there is enough evidence, they can take action against claims of bogus cancer cures, or other illegal activities, like practicing a form of "medicine" with a license.
Of course, media attention always helps to push a case higher on their priority list.

And heck, if someone is taking money improperly or illegally over state lines over the "wire"...big trouble.


[www.doj.state.or.us]
www.doj.state.or.us/finfraud/
www.doj.state.or.us/charigroup/index.shtml

Oregon Department of Justice
Financial Fraud/Consumer Protection

"The Financial Fraud/Consumer Protection Section protects consumers in the marketplace, primarily by enforcing Oregon's Unlawful Trade Practices Act. The section's duties also include educating consumers and businesses about their rights and obligations under the law, representing the interests of the State in multi-state, consumer-related enforcement actions, operating a hotline for consumers with questions or complaints about business practices, and assisting local and state law enforcement agencies with consumer-related matters...
Consumers who want information about consumer-related matters can read the information provided on this website and/or contact the Attorney General's Consumer Hotline from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. "

One can see that Gary Smith is directly taking untraceable CASH and MONEY ORDERS. So that is not a "charity" that is personal income. Is all that cash income being declared?

Perhaps the IRS would know. [www.irs.gov]

Whereas the credit card payments are done through "AIDS BABIES"
Is that a registered charity, or a personal slush-fund?
AidsBabies.org is defunct.

So where is all the money going?
Is it a registered charity? No probably not. So no one should EVER give something like that one-penny.
If its a registered charity, lets see the IRS 990 Form.


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www.photon.net/secure/innerlightshop.com/checkout_gen.php?ref=smt
[www.photon.net]

"This order page is for credit cards only. You may also purchase direct by sending check/cash/money order in US dollars to: Gary Smith, 53## Fourth Street NW, Tillamook, Oregon 97141 USA."

"IMPORTANT: All credit card transactions are processed through the AIDS BABIES. The charge on your credit card statement will appear from " AIDS BABIES "."

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Anyone take a look at the photos I posted on page 5?
Post was delayed.

In relation to those two photos, they see, to look like the same guy??
Same hairline, same mustache, same nose features.

Any link to the website where image #2 came from?

What a sneaky guy this is, hiding his photos, hiding-out in plain-sight in the suburbs in Tillamook Oregon, except for thousands of pages of internet spam where he is trying to sell Merkaba stuff everywhere.
A real slippery character for sure.

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Azuria
Anyone think these two Gary Smith's look similar?
[forum.culteducation.com]

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2011 02:45PM by The Anticult.

hmm, that image #2 seems to have come from a website ignatianspirituality.com
That link came up before, as there is a Jesuit there named Gary Smith, who is based in Oregon, and was working in refugee camps in Africa, and who is a writer.
hmm...

Search Google for:

gary smith site:ignatianspirituality.com

"Gary Smith is a 72-year-old Jesuit who has spent the last several years in refugee camps in Africa. You might say that these are some of the worst places on earth, and you wouldn’t be wrong. But they are also places where grace abounds, not least through the ministry of Gary Smith."
"Gary is now working with refugees from Zimbabwe in a camp in South Africa"

www.loyolapress.com/radical-compassion-finding-christ-in-the-poor.htm

Another image of Gary Smith Jesuit at this book excerpt, which looks different from the image on the webpage for Gary Smith Jesuit.

www.loyolapress.com/assets/fg_comp/PDF_200009.pdf

Lots of photos come up when you search Google images for:

Gary Smith Jesuit

the David Icke forums are an incredibly bizarre place of endless nested paranoid/delusional conspiracies inside enigmas, but there is a comment about Gary Smith there.

They are all trying to cash-in on the 2012 hype.


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[forum.davidicke.com]
23-06-2011, 03:22 PM

"Default Video in OP made by another merkaba teacher
Haven't read the whole thread yet, but I did search it to make sure nobody mentioned Gary Smith. Gary was the one that made the video in the OP. He was also one of Drunvalo's original merkaba meditation students. He teaches a his own altered version of the meditation. And now he's apparently turned on the guy that got him started in the first place. Intuitively, something does seem weird about Drunvalo, but Gary Smith appears infinitely crazier. His site is merkaba.org. Check out some of his "free audio" where he records messages to celebrities. His odd speech patterns and inflection alone should throw a red flag."

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This Gary Smith, what slimy behavior, really beyond grotesque.
Claiming the world is going to end in 2012, just to bilk more money out of vulnerable people using FEAR marketing.
Gary Smith was saying the same bullshit back in 2000, in 2004, same old bullshit. Its about creating EMOTIONAL PRESSURE to get people to BUY NOW. Its a sales technique.

And this pathetic spam scam of a website of www.desposynichurch.org
Its just the same old spam, with a different font. Or maybe the same font.
And he tries to list his Priests, when its obvious who he referring to.

#1 is Cliff Launt.
Cliff might now start getting extremely worried and anxious about making those written and publicized commercial medical claims of healing bones sticking out of the skin with singing, and curing cancer instantly.

Making medical claims of cures can be illegal.
Perhaps some bogus medical cure claims are going to be reported to the New York State Attorney General [www.ag.ny.gov] which is not as kindly as California to New Wage health scams.

Why is Cliff saying that bullshit?
Why mindlessly run the Gary Smith designed mind-virus computer program like a robot?
It might be time to wake up out of the trance, and stop lying to the public.

What an outrageous crock by Gary Smith.
He is claiming his people can instantly cure cancer, blindness, Autism, AIDS, exorcise demons...

Speaking of demons...
You see the pattern? Gary Smith cons these folks into selling everything, taking all his courses, and then being his unpaid salespeople and facilitators. Other sects do this too.

This is really a revolting sect, and that is compared to other revolting sects.
Gary Smith is extremely bad news.


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www.desposynichurch.org

Today’s Desposyni Church Priests and Priestesses

Every Priest and Priestess of today’s Desposyni Church is a trained teacher of ancient spiritual techniques, an experienced healer and a capable exorcist, exactly like the apostles and Desposyni were 1,981 years ago.

Today, over 100 underground Desposyni Church locations around the world still teach Jesus’ method of sacred dancing, his wisdom and perform his sacred ceremonies, despite centuries of persecutions, inquisitions and witch hunts by Catholic and Protestant Pauline Christians.

Below are some brief summaries of a few of the stories that everyone of today’s Desposyni Priests and Priestesses is writing for God, with their own decisions and actions in life.

North American male: Successfully given over 9,000 healing treatments, including instant cancer remission in adults and children. Was taught ancient healing songs in March 2009 and became the first person on earth in hundreds of years to sing broken bones back into place that were sticking out through the skin. (Former computer programmer sold all possessions to spend 3 years in Africa giving healing treatments to AIDS orphans.)

North American female: Successfully gave first 3 day Autism Retreat in centuries to 3 children and 3 parents. All children had bowel problems, all were healed by 2nd day. One 12 year old had never spoken a word or walked a step. By the end of 3 days, he had a 4 word vocabulary and was taking a few unassisted steps by himself.

African female: Successfully given thousands of healings to orphaned and destitute children in the AIDS ravaged slums of Johannesburg. instantly healed a boy blind from birth. Founded a non-profit organization which now provides loving services to over 1000 HIV/AIDS affected children. Isolated the AIDS virus and has successfully healed people of the AIDS dis-ease and cancer. (Former South African diplomat in South Africa’s equivalent of the White House who gave up career to heal and help homeless AIDS orphans.)

African male: Successfully given thousands of healing treatments to AIDS orphans living in city slums and remote tribal areas. Original member of AIDS orphan relief organization. (Former owner of a graphic design studio who closed down his business, sold his home and moved to a remote tribal area to give free ancient healing treatments to AIDS Orphans).

North American female: Has successfully given hundreds of exorcisms and trained others to do the same in India, Canada, Tahiti, Egypt, France, USA, Scotland and elsewhere. (Former auto industry leasing executive.)

African male: Successfully given thousands of healing treatments to AIDS orphans who live in remote tribal areas. Original member of AIDS orphan relief organization. (Former director of a leading South African company who resigned, sold his home and investments to spend the last 5 years giving ancient Essene healing treatments to AIDS orphans.)

North American female: Successfully trained hundreds in advanced techniques throughout Europe, North America and French Polynesia. Has successfully exorcised demons from hundreds of suffering people throughout the world, including children. (Former investigative journalist and magazine editor who left her career to discover the real truth of life.)
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2011 06:30PM by The Anticult.

Yes if you GOGLE SEARCH "Gary Smith meditation" both photos come up.

This is my theory so far.

- Fr. Gary Smith, Jesuit is legit.
- Gary Smith, Merkaba stole/took a picture of the Jesuit to sumbit to Author's Den since they both have the same name/interests/location.
- Fr. Gary Smith Jesuit's recent photos look a lot different, but that's because he's older know. The Author's Den photo is also old.


Futhermore, on page 1 of this thread, Anticrist slowed down the Gary Smith's and recording and said it sounded, like middle-aged man.
Could this be our guy: garydouglassmith.com
He's middle-aged. I know he doesn't live in Oregon, but so what? I don't think it would be too hard to have two addresses.