G12 Ministries -- Orlando
Posted by:
concerneddad2331
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Date: August 01, 2012 09:46PM
My 19-year old daughter has gotten involved with a church that follows the "G12" doctrine. They break into cells of 12 members and she's taking classes to lead a cell. This has been quick and dramatic and its concerning us greatly. I've read up on G12, and I'm more concerned than ever. Can anyone share any information on the G12 Movement? Any experience with a church in Orlando callled Northwest Community Church?
Re: G12 Ministries -- Orlando
Posted by:
Claris
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Date: August 02, 2012 01:06AM
Dear concerned dad,
I feel for you because I know what you and your daughter are up against!
Looks like the G12 movement was started by Cesar Castellanos, the Pastor of a Charismatic mega-church in Bogota, Columbia (South America). Supposedly, he received a vision from "God" that propelled the idea of meeting in cell groups of twelve (since the number of disciples we twelve). Cesar was greatly influenced by Dr. Paul Yonggi Cho, the pastor one of the largest Charismatic churches in Korea. It looks like Cesar is part of the New Apostolic Reformation that is sweeping the world. C. Peter Wagner is the leader of the NAR. Intertwined within these Charismatic/Pentecostal movements are the Word-Faith movement (health, wealth & prosperity), the Toronto blessing (signs & wonders), Holy Laughter, Latter Rain & Manifest Sons of God, etc. Though I haven't had a personal experience with G12, I did have an experience with another group called Adventures in Missions--a missionary organization based out of Gainesville, GA, that promotes many of the same people and thinking that G12 does. I wrote a short, 80--page book that was recently published on Kindle (amazon.com). Though I don't get into C. Peter Wagner, the whole concept of G12 and this missionary organization seem to be pretty much the same--from what I've been reading so far. In my book, I expose the leaders of AIM and how they are enticing young adults into Eastern/occultic mysticism and socialism. You will see the unbelievable deception taking place by these leaders and how they are sublty introducing occult concepts to these young people.
From a quick glance, it looks like G12 uses the Great Commission much like Adventures in Missions does, to say we must make more followers of Jesus by changing ourselves and, ultimately, the world. In order to do so, we must have "Vision." There is too long a story behind the Vision idea to go into online--but I will tell you, it's not God's vision--it comes straight out of the occult.
These movements place experience above sound doctrine--contrary to the many warnings given by the disicples and by Jesus Himself in the New Testament. They use occult meditation in the guise of contemplative/centering/listening prayer, to "listen to the still small voice of God," as they put it, and "experience God or have an "encounter" with Jesus. Using practices God condemns, promoting people like Richard Rohr (who believes in a Cosmic Christ or christ consciousness that is found within everyone--thus you can become your divine Higher Self or god, and other authors promoting occultism, is hazardous to a Christian's spiritual health. So many have forgotten the warnings of Jesus and the apostles about false teachers, false christs, lying signs and wonders and how Satan will disguise himself as an angel of light and his prophets as servants of righteousness.
If you're interested in getting a good look at how young adults are being sucked into movements like G12, you can order my book through Kindle at amazon.com (it's only $2.99). Or, if you don't have a Kindle, you can get a free ap to download on your computer, then buy the book and read it online. It's easy to read and very informative.
One tip I would give you. Ask your daughter gentle questions--without pushing too much-- anything to make her think things through and start questioning what she is being taught. Beautiful experiences can be beguiling, and the idea that they can have all the powers Jesus had (that's part of all this), appeals to the ego and can be irrisistable to the young adult who wants to feel important, independent and maybe a bit smarter than their parents. The same lie Satan used to deceive Eve in the garden--you will be like God...is being used today to lure a countless number into the occult.
I'll be praying for you and your daughter!
Claris
I feel for you because I know what you and your daughter are up against!
Looks like the G12 movement was started by Cesar Castellanos, the Pastor of a Charismatic mega-church in Bogota, Columbia (South America). Supposedly, he received a vision from "God" that propelled the idea of meeting in cell groups of twelve (since the number of disciples we twelve). Cesar was greatly influenced by Dr. Paul Yonggi Cho, the pastor one of the largest Charismatic churches in Korea. It looks like Cesar is part of the New Apostolic Reformation that is sweeping the world. C. Peter Wagner is the leader of the NAR. Intertwined within these Charismatic/Pentecostal movements are the Word-Faith movement (health, wealth & prosperity), the Toronto blessing (signs & wonders), Holy Laughter, Latter Rain & Manifest Sons of God, etc. Though I haven't had a personal experience with G12, I did have an experience with another group called Adventures in Missions--a missionary organization based out of Gainesville, GA, that promotes many of the same people and thinking that G12 does. I wrote a short, 80--page book that was recently published on Kindle (amazon.com). Though I don't get into C. Peter Wagner, the whole concept of G12 and this missionary organization seem to be pretty much the same--from what I've been reading so far. In my book, I expose the leaders of AIM and how they are enticing young adults into Eastern/occultic mysticism and socialism. You will see the unbelievable deception taking place by these leaders and how they are sublty introducing occult concepts to these young people.
From a quick glance, it looks like G12 uses the Great Commission much like Adventures in Missions does, to say we must make more followers of Jesus by changing ourselves and, ultimately, the world. In order to do so, we must have "Vision." There is too long a story behind the Vision idea to go into online--but I will tell you, it's not God's vision--it comes straight out of the occult.
These movements place experience above sound doctrine--contrary to the many warnings given by the disicples and by Jesus Himself in the New Testament. They use occult meditation in the guise of contemplative/centering/listening prayer, to "listen to the still small voice of God," as they put it, and "experience God or have an "encounter" with Jesus. Using practices God condemns, promoting people like Richard Rohr (who believes in a Cosmic Christ or christ consciousness that is found within everyone--thus you can become your divine Higher Self or god, and other authors promoting occultism, is hazardous to a Christian's spiritual health. So many have forgotten the warnings of Jesus and the apostles about false teachers, false christs, lying signs and wonders and how Satan will disguise himself as an angel of light and his prophets as servants of righteousness.
If you're interested in getting a good look at how young adults are being sucked into movements like G12, you can order my book through Kindle at amazon.com (it's only $2.99). Or, if you don't have a Kindle, you can get a free ap to download on your computer, then buy the book and read it online. It's easy to read and very informative.
One tip I would give you. Ask your daughter gentle questions--without pushing too much-- anything to make her think things through and start questioning what she is being taught. Beautiful experiences can be beguiling, and the idea that they can have all the powers Jesus had (that's part of all this), appeals to the ego and can be irrisistable to the young adult who wants to feel important, independent and maybe a bit smarter than their parents. The same lie Satan used to deceive Eve in the garden--you will be like God...is being used today to lure a countless number into the occult.
I'll be praying for you and your daughter!
Claris
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