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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: lifetruetome ()
Date: June 06, 2012 02:50PM

"I doubt that human loving is what the students want now John, but if I could get a hearing, i would give it a crack. But I am certain it wouldn’t be reciprocated because the truly committed students eschew mere human love for the grand universal soulful love that you have to spend a lifetime working towards ( at Serges guidance, we take cash only, thanks)"

Concerned Partner I agree with you. This whole massive UM philosophy makes it very hard for someone who has been studying UM to ever leave. Some of these students have invested so much time and money and been so brainwashed its really hard to know the best way to get them out??

My friends are so involved I think their world would fall in if Serge was shown to be a fraud. I think the ramifications of that is quite huge....

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: Eric Dobbs ()
Date: June 06, 2012 09:37PM

What a sad sad organization this man ( if you're kind enough to refer to him as that) has created. I read every day of someone or family that has been devastated by UM and the Benhayon family's arrogant and ignorant belief system and claims. This is a heartfelt and genuine WARNING to anyone contemplating connecting with this lot. in my experience this is NOT a BENIGN organisation, there is nothing UNIVERSAL about it nor does it bear any relationship to MEDICINE.!!! -Eric Dobbs

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: MacReady ()
Date: June 07, 2012 04:04AM

There is apparently some concern within UM headquarters about the information that has been shared here and who we, the contributors are, but when one examines the claims Serge makes and internal logic (or lack thereof) within the UM cosmology, you have to wonder why. For example, Serge claims that any criticism directed against UM is proof that the teachings have touched the individual doing the criticizing, thus proving the profundity of the truth contained within the 'Ancient Wisdom'.

Perhaps then UM should consider providing an active link to this thread under the title 'Testimonials', as everything written here can be considered evidence that Serge is correct in his assertion. It could be similar to these testimonials, but far more insightful, rational and specific:
[www.healing-symbols.com]

If there is any confusion or mystery on UM's part as to the identities of any contributor here, then that is truly perplexing if we are to take Serge's convictions at face value.

For instance, the Level 3 Sacred Esoteric Healing course offered by UM includes a preliminary long distance healing session lasting six weeks, during which Serge claims to be able to divine which one of the 'Rays of Distinction' the student is aligned to. See details on this page:
[www.universalmedicine.com.au]

He can apparently do this, no matter which part of the world the student lives in, and with no intimate knowledge of
that individual's personality. That's hundreds of students at the same time. All he needs is a name and a booking for
the course. A deposit probably doesn't go astray, either

Also, as I noted in my first post here, in the New Era message from January 2012, Serge literally claims to intuitively know every secret of the universe. Essentially, he knows everything about everything. Listen here:
[study.universalmedicine.com.au]

In light of all this it's rather baffling that UM seem concerned about the contents of this thread, since Serge should intuitively know who we all are, and the substance of our contributions simply prove that he's right about everything anyway.

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Re: Universal medicine
Date: June 07, 2012 07:08AM

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MacReady
There is apparently some concern within UM headquarters about the information that has been shared here and who we, the contributors are, but when one examines the claims Serge makes and internal logic (or lack thereof) within the UM cosmology, you have to wonder why. For example, Serge claims that any criticism directed against UM is proof that the teachings have touched the individual doing the criticizing, thus proving the profundity of the truth contained within the 'Ancient Wisdom'.

Perhaps then UM should consider providing an active link to this thread under the title 'Testimonials', as everything written here can be considered evidence that Serge is correct in his assertion. It could be similar to these testimonials, but far more insightful, rational and specific:
[www.healing-symbols.com]

If there is any confusion or mystery on UM's part as to the identities of any contributor here, then that is truly perplexing if we are to take Serge's convictions at face value.

For instance, the Level 3 Sacred Esoteric Healing course offered by UM includes a preliminary long distance healing session lasting six weeks, during which Serge claims to be able to divine which one of the 'Rays of Distinction' the student is aligned to. See details on this page:
[www.universalmedicine.com.au]

He can apparently do this, no matter which part of the world the student lives in, and with no intimate knowledge of
that individual's personality. That's hundreds of students at the same time. All he needs is a name and a booking for
the course. A deposit probably doesn't go astray, either

Also, as I noted in my first post here, in the New Era message from January 2012, Serge literally claims to intuitively know every secret of the universe. Essentially, he knows everything about everything. Listen here:
[study.universalmedicine.com.au]

In light of all this it's rather baffling that UM seem concerned about the contents of this thread, since Serge should intuitively know who we all are, and the substance of our contributions simply prove that he's right about everything anyway.

You have to pay Serge for sheer self belief..

Because everything is energy, there is first and foremost a need to discern which is in fact the offending energy and which is the true healing energy well before one can entertain healing with energy. If this is not sought or, much less understood, the exponent is no wiser than the blind, wisher, hoper or puppet leading the blind as is the case with those who choose to think that a name, title, legend, lineage or claim make a modality safe and or true.

Of course, only Serge knows what is 'energetically' true. I am always impressed how Serge promotes himself by denigrating others- Doesnt he know what Serge says about Peter says more about Serge? His ramblings are full of references to the craziness of others and layered with self-rigteousness and each time he says it IT TELLS YOU A LOT ABOUT HIM..... Please UM students wake up from this dark world that Serge is lost in. Do you remember how once in simpler times you realised that life is about love or fear? Serge says it is about love, but if you read his books/sites, listen to his diatribes, all your hear is fear. Fear of other traditions, fear of bad energetic choices, fear of spirits, falling into the Astral worlds, bad incarnations, Ill-ness, and dis-ease, rising cancer rates, cataclysmic events because of bad choices, bad food that lowers your vibration, exercise that hardenS your body. FEAR FEAR FEAR. Not and nowhere near Love. And all total BS.

Wake up UM students. We on this thread are not controlled by Pranic forces, lower minds, bad energies, toxic thoughts, the Lords of Form, channelling spirits....we are simply real people who love the people affected and are concerned for them. We are rational human beings knowing that love is about acceptance and meeting people for what they really are. Sure you can feel cosmic love, you can grow spiritually, (yes spiritually) but if you can't love normally in life as a result of UM, then what is it doing for you? It is simply making you fearful and sucking away any love you had and replacing it with FEAR- and an endless course to try and find a emphemereal love that Serge is selling to you one part of your soul at a time. Wake up.

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Re: Universal medicine
Date: June 07, 2012 08:01AM

As I said, what Serge says about Peter...

From his New Era Message:

Finding a religion, a guru, a sect or a cult etc and live under their ideals,
beliefs, tenets etc
… this way you do not have to deal with any of your deep
hurts as they will provide the answers for you if not absolve and wash all
the hurts away
e. Becoming famous or so-called important via the many avenues available ---
avenues that bring you to be unchallenged by the sycophants that adorn
your life



I'm sorry, this is so ironic and laughable that I havent been able to stop.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: Eric Dobbs ()
Date: June 07, 2012 01:41PM

Yes Concerned, serge is a real comedy act,sometimes I think he is so stupid he doesn't know how stupid he is ! It still intrigues me how grown people fall for it though a recent post explains that mystery well .Quote - Feed them the poison and sell them the Antidote -Eric

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: Pranic Attack ()
Date: June 07, 2012 11:56PM

It is sad that our friends have fallen under Serge's spell, as i imagine like my friend they are all caring and gentle people, who just happen to have enough money to pay for the all the things that Serge convinces them they need ...
He seems to discourage any help for people our friends may once have felt charitable towards, teaching that the poor and sick have only themselves to blame for their predicaments as they 'earned' this in previous incarnations.
In his interview on 1st Jan 2012 he also covers inheritances, and the bad effect of gifting to anyone who may use the gift for personal enjoyment/benefit. He also has some sort of 3 month cure for anything inherited by his students which may have the wrong energy ... or something - it is a bit confusing.
Presumably it is fine to benefit him or his organizatioin then ? Is this how the financial health thing works ?

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: HerbertKane178 ()
Date: June 08, 2012 10:49PM

It seems the internet and social media in general is a concern of his/them. Have a look at his posting on the wall of his Facebook page today...

A case of the pot calling the kettle black if ever I saw one.



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MacReady
There is apparently some concern within UM headquarters about the information that has been shared here and who we, the contributors are, but when one examines the claims Serge makes and internal logic (or lack thereof) within the UM cosmology, you have to wonder why. For example, Serge claims that any criticism directed against UM is proof that the teachings have touched the individual doing the criticizing, thus proving the profundity of the truth contained within the 'Ancient Wisdom'.

Perhaps then UM should consider providing an active link to this thread under the title 'Testimonials', as everything written here can be considered evidence that Serge is correct in his assertion. It could be similar to these testimonials, but far more insightful, rational and specific:
[www.healing-symbols.com]

If there is any confusion or mystery on UM's part as to the identities of any contributor here, then that is truly perplexing if we are to take Serge's convictions at face value.

For instance, the Level 3 Sacred Esoteric Healing course offered by UM includes a preliminary long distance healing session lasting six weeks, during which Serge claims to be able to divine which one of the 'Rays of Distinction' the student is aligned to. See details on this page:
[www.universalmedicine.com.au]

He can apparently do this, no matter which part of the world the student lives in, and with no intimate knowledge of
that individual's personality. That's hundreds of students at the same time. All he needs is a name and a booking for
the course. A deposit probably doesn't go astray, either

Also, as I noted in my first post here, in the New Era message from January 2012, Serge literally claims to intuitively know every secret of the universe. Essentially, he knows everything about everything. Listen here:
[study.universalmedicine.com.au]

In light of all this it's rather baffling that UM seem concerned about the contents of this thread, since Serge should intuitively know who we all are, and the substance of our contributions simply prove that he's right about everything anyway.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: MacReady ()
Date: June 09, 2012 05:11AM

That's hilarious, or should that be 'Hilarion'? :-)
[www.greatdreams.com]

[www.heartscenter.org]

If Serge is referring to Facebook, then why would he lower himself to engage in a medium so lacking in integrity, decency, morality and real truth?

Answer:to increase exposure, 'people traffic' and thus money-intake for Universal Medicine.

Maybe he's jealous that Facebook has made its founder billions without resorting to such 'real truths' as Aryan root-race theories and astral boogey-men ruled over by the Lords of Form. If Mark Zuckerberg started hearing voices and made claims of multi-genius (and one New Age nut-job) reincarnated lineage and founded his own Theosophy spin-off religion would that help clear his social network of pranic energy?

In an earlier post he dismisses Facebook as 'verbal pornography'. Maybe so, but what does that make his contributions there? And if Serge is a 'verbal pornographer' then it follows that those people clamoring to 'like' his status updates, and post gushing comments declaring their allegiance and love are 'verbal porn' addicts.

On the other hand, if that recent update is referring to THIS very thread that's even funnier, considering that the most detailed and critical entries here consist of quoting and otherwise accurately describing the very belief system he propagates. He might not like our opinions, but the substance of the claims reported and discussed here are all straight from the 'universal mind' of Serge Benhayon.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: HerbertKane178 ()
Date: June 09, 2012 05:31AM

I think the poor man is confused, he doesn't know where to turn. He derides Facebook and yet engages with it. He tries to mock it "You ask me Facbook what is on my mind..." but then continues to use it as a platform to shout louder. When searching for him or Universal Medicine through search engines, this site, and many others offering the truth about him appear. Sadly, Serge, Google is bigger than you and you can't control it. The TRUTH is out there now, for all eternity (well as long as the interent lasts, and I don't recall anyone predicting the near future demise of that).

P.S. As offered before, if you would a bigger platform to speak on (unpaid, sorry) please do join us here. Rather a lot of hits of this site, so there's obviously a lot of people reading...




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MacReady
That's hilarious, or should that be 'Hilarion'? :-)
[www.greatdreams.com]

[www.heartscenter.org]

If Serge is referring to Facebook, then why would he lower himself to engage in a medium so lacking in integrity, decency, morality and real truth?

Answer:to increase exposure, 'people traffic' and thus money-intake for Universal Medicine.

Maybe he's jealous that Facebook has made its founder billions without resorting to such 'real truths' as Aryan root-race theories and astral boogey-men ruled over by the Lords of Form. If Mark Zuckerberg started hearing voices and made claims of multi-genius (and one New Age nut-job) reincarnated lineage and founded his own Theosophy spin-off religion would that help clear his social network of pranic energy?

In an earlier post he dismisses Facebook as 'verbal pornography'. Maybe so, but what does that make his contributions there? And if Serge is a 'verbal pornographer' then it follows that those people clamoring to 'like' his status updates, and post gushing comments declaring their allegiance and love are 'verbal porn' addicts.

On the other hand, if that recent update is referring to THIS very thread that's even funnier, considering that the most detailed and critical entries here consist of quoting and otherwise accurately describing the very belief system he propagates. He might not like our opinions, but the substance of the claims reported and discussed here are all straight from the 'universal mind' of Serge Benhayon.

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