Truth wins Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Told them everything that is in here. And held > them accountable for their lies and abuse. It is impressive... And where is all the money - some maybe here: And worth to remind: QuoteVera City Yoza, Nishiki, Reed, Gabbard are all BETA male types to Butler's ALPHA. Easy followers. Most f
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QuoteFormerSelfQuoteVera City So what finally tipped you off and how did you escape after eight years? I became persona non grata, Siddha telling people not to associate with me. Essentially being shunned. I saw the fear in other devotees' eyes whenever I came close... I bowed down to pay my obeisances. When I started to get up, I saw his back as he was scurrying away from me. At that moment
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QuoteVera City So what finally tipped you off and how did you escape after eight years? I became persona non grata, Siddha telling people not to associate with me. Essentially being shunned. I saw the fear in other devotees' eyes whenever I came close. Nobody wanted to incur Siddha's wrath by being guilty by association. So I went to see Siddha about it. I mean, I was one of the core or
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Quote Next Post » 19 Responses to ZNZ Pros and Cons Is it real or another scam? deathmeditation May 20, 2012 | 8:49 am TAKEN FROM THE BOOK” BARBARA memoir of a love affair” byDR WILLIS BUTLER …the father of CHRIS BUTLER . When the mother of Chris Butler pass away Dr Will Butler invited is son Chris over the phone to a memorial in honor of his mother but the
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QuotefancyMy son is interested in going to Hawaii to work on Dharma Farm. Should I be concerned for his safety? I have heard about cult type activities. I would appreciate any information. You should be very concerned about your son going to Hawaii to work on Dharma Farms. Alan Yoza is a long time devotee of Chris Butler that goes back to his "Sai" days. Historically, there is li
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dharmafarmer: You come across as an apologist that is only here to defend the group, its members and the Dharma Farm, which apparently is associated with Butler through his associate Allan Yoza aka "Shankarananda". You admit that the "library" at Dharma Farms includes "books about Siddha ". And that there are "happy devotees" there. Even though the
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QuoteCorboy, I am an EX-devotee. I refer to him as Siddha because that is how I always have known him. I do agree with you that he will be donating free labor which will benefit someone else. But young people get to travel the world doing this. They also pick up some farming experience if that is what they want to do. My daughter did it in South America. Wouldn't be my first choice, eith
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See There seems to be a spiritual/religious component to the program, which includes "BHAKTI YOGA, MANTRA MEDITATION, KIRTANS, VEGETARIAN DIET..." The owner of "Dharma Farms" is Allan Yoza. See Yoza has been accused of unethical "slum lord" business practices. See Yoza and Chris Butler has been linked according to comments made at this message bo
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Mod, if I am not mistaken, Alan Yoza is behind the Dharma Farm in Hawaii. Not Iskcon. Although it has been a zillion years since I knew Alan, he was always a bit on the fringe. Corboy, I am an EX-devotee. I refer to him as Siddha because that is how I always have known him. I do agree with you that he will be donating free labor which will benefit someone else. But young people get to travel
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About Allan Yoza, need I say more? This bottom-line philosophy goes across the board, much like Iskcon's "the end justifies the means" thinking. They don't give a hoot, or feel shame in engaging in shady business deals, politics and even to the point of hurt and the detriment of other people outside the group. Behind the facade of vegetarianism, simple living, chanting mantras
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To Alan Yoza, What would happen if you cut ties with such a liar as chris butler. I know you think he is some kind of incarnation of Christ or maybe by now it is Vishnu Himself! Think of how stupid it all is. All imagined thoughts, believed by people who are looking for an authority to save them. You are too damned smart for that and I don't think you really believe all that shit anymor
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I never met Alan Yoza but if his initiated name is Shankarananda, I remember hearing a little about him. As I recall, he is a disciple of Bhaktivedanta and, being a devotee of Krishna, was always around a lot of CB followers, but he himself was never really a follower of CB. I remember hearing that he was good at making money and was always involved in some money-making endeavours, but followe
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Oh Alan Yoza, Stop being a follower of a loser. I know all you guys thought that Siddha was Jesus Christ reincarnate. Yes, you all talked about it and really believed it. But guess what...ain't so...and you full-on know it! I think you Siddha followes are just like the 'devotees' in the ISKCON temples. You hated them but you are just like them...slaves to a demented master.
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Thanks, Vera, for the interesting link to Allan Yoza's real estate business on the island of Hawaii ... I wonder where the profits from Yoza's real estate business go? Into Chris Butler's pockets, no doubt? Also, the profits from the health food stores? Probably goes to pay for his mansion on the beach and the million-dollar air purification machines. (One wonders why air puri
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Here's Shankarananda's website - indeed he's in real estate. Also, an interesting fact about Noni juice: Quote"•Analgesic: The Noni tree is also knows as the ‘Painkiller and Headache tree’. Noni has been found to be 75% as effective as morphine sulphate in relieving pain without the toxic side effects." Maybe the combo of chanting and Noni juice creates a great na
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QuoteVera CityAllan Yoza aka Shankarananda - Slumlord? 2007 complaint follows. Not sure how it was resolved. There is mention of his connection to Hare Krishnas. QuoteAllan is a real estate landowner and landlord. He preys on single welfare mothers. He tells them that they can own their own home. He sells them substandard shacks built with offgrade lumber for real cheap on lots that h
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sorry this was supposed to be posted under Chris Butler thread!
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Allan Yoza aka Shankarananda - Slumlord? 2007 complaint follows. Not sure how it was resolved. There is mention of his connection to Hare Krishnas. QuoteAllan is a real estate landowner and landlord. He preys on single welfare mothers. He tells them that they can own their own home. He sells them substandard shacks built with offgrade lumber for real cheap on lots that he got at rock
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QuotekrishnacaitanyaAlan Yoza looks the same as always (the viedo of him on farm). He is a good egg. Somehow he has been a Siddha loyalist all along. A believer, I guess. Yoza, Nishiki, Reed, Gabbard are all BETA male types to Butler's ALPHA. Easy followers. Most followers, as pointed out by Indigo Arthur and others, were/are likable "good eggs". Unfortunately, most people
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There is little question that there are some really good people in the cult and I dont doubt that Alan Yoza is one of them. However if these people are carrying out the wishes of a Psycho then it is worth pointing out to the rest of humanity. My dad used to always say "if your only an asshole when your drunk, does that mean your not asshole?" So now I ask myself 30 years later, if a guy
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Alan Yoza looks the same as always (the viedo of him on farm). He is a good egg. Somehow he has been a Siddha loyalist all along. A believer, I guess.
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Like the video especially @ 0:42 When Allen Yoza glances towards the camera with that far away look. As far as Wayne Nishiki goes... he does run the newest westside healthfood store and there are known cult members working there. Just interested in why you think he is no longer involved. At the same time I dont wanna pry. I have seen the Health stores over the years swoop up more than their fair
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QuoteGUDANSLOSHEDakaBALLHOLDERhttp://www.dharmafarmshawaii.org/ You'll notice that the main website is "roses and daffodils" but then you click on rules which takes you to another page you have to click on, anyway 3 clicks later you get the harsh reality. Very stern tones "we are in charge and you are here to learn not to teach." A couple years back there was a link to
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Are you talking about the noni fram run by my old buddy, Alan Yoza?
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Healing Noni changed their name to Heaven's Noni Allan Yoza (Shankar) and Michael Harvey (gopal?) -------------------------------- In march this year Heaven's Noni was registered in Utah. www.heavensnoni.com -------------------------------- Healing Noni is registered to Michael Harvey www.healingnoni.com ...and so is the tradmark. Not very subtl
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Found an interesting article on Allan Yoza relating to Mike Gabbard campaign contributions. Quote"I didn't know about Bhakti Yoga or Hare Krishna before I came," wrote one Dharma Farms work exchange participant, at a Web site for organic farming volunteers. "I don't know what I was thinking but it's not what I got.... Be prepared for being immersed in chanting
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Shankar's real name is Allan Yoza. You can check out some more info on his dharma farms at this link: He use to own a building supply business on the Big Isalnd, has owned big parcels of land, and was involved in the illegal surveying busness they had going on, and may still have. Shankar was an original devotee of Chris Butler's, before CB joined Iskon. Shankar lives in Hilo
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