"ANTI-CATHOLIC AND SUPPORTING ATTACKS ON ALL CATHOLICS" -Nobody is attacking "all catholics". I'm only opposed to those who still think the Pope is infallible, hate gays, and try to obfuscate, deny, or explain away child rape. Aside from the anti-gay bigots, Catholics are fine by me...
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"This is about deception. Your bigotry is your problem. I would not go into a thread run by Jews who are upset about some particular cult that claims Judaic heritage and tell them that because I have certain opinions about the Jewish religion and the way they do things that the entire Jewish identity must be a cult and therefore any Jew who comes in here to start a thread on deceptive cults
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QuoteStoicHow is this finger-pointing smoke-screen of an apology for the endemic corruption in the catholic church any different?I have no objection to anybody's personal beliefs, I do object to apologists trawling for obscure 'cults' to post in this forum to scare any wavering catholics back into the arms and filling the coffers of Mother Church. Bingo. Right on the money.
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Quotedsm And BTW, the Pope does not operate the prison system or the court system in any country. The government in each and every one of these cases has full power to go right in and investigate and arrest, WHO is responsible for that? YOU, the secular public. . You are talking about a Pope that has GONE OUT OF HIS WAY, particularly before he became pope, to manipulate, lie, and obfuscate abo
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Quotedsm The present pope has been one of the strongest opponents of permissiveness and he is supporting investigations instead of discouraging them. . OK, now I smell a rat, DSM. That above sentence is complete and utter bs. And what you are referring to as "opponent of permissiveness" is his hatred for homosexuals while tolerating BOY-RAPE within his own church. This current pope h
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"1) The whole point of transitioning away from oil is so that it's not a shock or an emergency, there is no collapse of the social order and so on. The transition would happen over a period of 30-50 years (I thought up that figure, it's not from TT or any other group). In that scenario, emergency response agencies etc aren't necessary." -But according to the Transers
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"In general, if some material upsets us so much that we cannot examine it but we feel compelled to attack the person who presented the upsetting material, that is a sign that we have been subjected to some kind of manipulation at some point in our lives. This is especially true if you deny the obvious facts in the material provided." -But the point is you DON"T PROVIDE THE MATER
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"Prosser was a top aide to Saul Alinsky…"The Main Man" who is responsible for most of the problems within the Catholic Church even today…(Call to Action – Detroit in the turbulent ‘60’s) Alinsky acknowledged Lucifer as their leader in the book RULES FOR RADICAL" Great source, again, DSM. You really are becoming a serious time-waster on this board.
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Yeah, sure, they're not a cult. Whatever.... TFP is undergoing investigation by the French Parliament Now much weaker in Brazil, the ultra-conservative TFP is undergoing investigation by the French Parliament. In the 1970's, TFP used to demonstrate against Communism. Today, according to Lionel Jospin, it is only a "Brazilian cult" in France. "Foreign Legion&quo
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Your links give me nothing. Nothing. Please link to a specific story describing these alleged "mob attacks by Jews against people who had blond hair and blue eyes." Just one story, please, otherwise, I'm asssuming you just made this up.
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"And unlike Opus Dei and the Legionnaires, it has run candidates in Brazil," -Oops, I need to be more clear about that: it is the TFP who has run candidates, not CESNUR, though I could understand why somebody might misinterpret my original post.
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"But Jews in America use this to attack blond kids all the time and that is wrong. They invent games like "hate blue-eyes" in the schools to "teach about racism" and this is directly responsible for the growth of white racism in those fringe groups that are becoming more popular as blond white kids become more desparate" -Uh, Rick, why is DSM still on this board?
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"Now we see the full death-cult coming out of the Bible belt as "Repent America" but "Repent America" is only a small reaction to what has been going on: the actual full-scale emasculation of Black Americans by the Gay movment and the attacks on our children and our families and the destruction of what was once a thriving civilization. That Snopes article describing th
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CESNUR is not a cult, but TFP is and a very dangerous one at that. I do not know if it is a "Front", but it is very weird to see a TFP member like Introvigne professionally involved in defending groups that are as "anti-Christian" as they come. Not to mention the guy is a proponent of vampirism! Do a search on "Massimo Introvigne vampires". Not very "Catholic&qu
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1. Both links work fine, Oerlikon. Tip: use the buttons on your mouse to "click" on the links. That will help. 2. NOTHING in that article suggests that ACORN was a "cult within the Catholic Church". Did the Church send some money to ACORN? Apparently so. But that is nothing like a cult like Opus Dei or the Legionnaires who are high within the elite of the church. thank
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Slightly tangential, but it was a weird coincidence to see the first New College article I've seen in a while right while doing this Transition Town research. And what an article! New College is not to blame for this guy, and appears to have been conned by him. But it was the investigation into this freak that triggered further investigations leading to them being de-certified. New College i
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"However, just in the interest of accuracy I should point out that Rob sold Walnut books about 7-8 years ago, so you cant hold him responsible for its current content; of course he very likely sold Schauberger books when it was his, and all the Biodynamic Steiner stuff as well." -Thanks for info, I stand corrected. About page was about Rob, so I figured he was still in mix. Either wa
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For those unfamiliar with Steiner and Waldorf anti-semitism, here is a little primer. While it would be easy to say "his views on Jews don't invalidate his views on gardening, mysticism, etc. Walt Disney was a right-wing nut, but that doesn't mean his movies were bad", Steiner's views on Jews were not "separate" or "secret", but openly espoused and tie
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Quotekarenb. You are undermining the process of rebuilding community and preserving what's left of a healthy ecosystem by your obvious and undeniable association with genocidal maniacs, fascists, and occultists, and sometimes I have to wonder if that's the whole point. . Wait, but there's more... So, of course, Transition Town has "nothing" to do with Waldorf. We
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Just round this out, here are a few more articles on Transition Town, both with generally positve things to say about TT, but also revealing in other ways... This article is a little "woowoo" in its own right, with its "Bright Green Citizens" and such. But it makes some valid points... "Yet, ultimately, the Transition Town approach stifles its own potential imp
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QuoteRobHopkinsAnother top piece of Google research from Corboy there... that thread hasn't been updated since mid 2007.... Rob And how does that invalidates the discussion on it? I can see why you probably aren't too thrilled with the "Big Whoosh" video still being out there. (not sure if this will embed correctly, but it's worth a try) http://www.youtube.com/
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" This will likely be my last contribution to this thread, given the amount of time it takes me to do these and the piles of stuff around me that is somewhat more pressing, a conference to organise which takes place in 2 weeks, writing deadline etc. Also we seem to have started going round in circles, so I'd like to just sum up a few things if I may. " -Fine. Thanks for coming
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Also, just to correct one typo I made above: Obviously, the cost of oil has dropped 50% or more in the past two years, not "100%". My bad.
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"Ive been reading the Peak Oil Debunked website- he doesnt seem to have updated it since Nov 2009?!" -So? He's an unpaid blogger, not the NY Times. Maybe he just got bored of arguing with people. Doesn't affect the fact that he has thoroughly smashed many of the Peakers with their own words and didn't-come-true predictions. I have an abandoned blog that I haven't
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QuoteGraham S Moderator, Margarets is clearly not making a threat, it is ridiculous to suggest she is. Obviously, as she has already explained, she is saying that public figures are subject to close personal scrutiny and that ad hominem attacks are frequently used to discredit the arguments they actually make. Margaret has made no ad hominems, nor is she threatening to. Shakti's posts are
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"There is nothing stopping you from making your own YouTube videos or a blog or whatever to warn people of the dangers of the Transition Towns movement. Go for it, do it. " -Nah, I've got other things to do with my time. Not interested in being a public figure anyway. "Most people don't know about this forum let alone read it, so get your message out there. &qu
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Here's Macy's homepage. Excuse me while I go in for my diabetes screening. Too much sugary niceness for my brain.... Yuck. Graham, what evidence do you have that Transition Town is using her as some kind of reference point?
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" or that people who warn of potential "die-off" scenarios due to overshoot and resource constraints are actually hoping for such a thing to happen; and that all this is somehow backed by the oil and coal industries themselves- does seem to me to have a lot in common with David Icke-style paranoia, with little evidence to support it." -ASPO was funded by Schlumberger and Ha
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* Schumacher College has no, to the best of my knowledge, connection with the Steiner community. Look at their programme of courses, nothing remotely Steinery. -Check GrahamS's post before mine. He covers it fairly well. If I have time I will break down the Schumacher stuff. My research is on different computer, so I apologize for delay. *I think I need a bit more confirmation of t
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"* In relation to my stating that there is no link to Steiner, you just posted a link to my website, presumably a reference, as was cited earlier in this thread, to the 'Head, Heart and Hands' wording. If that is a Steiner term as stated here, I had no idea, it came to mind while I was writing the book and should in no sense be taken as having any reference to Steiner at all"
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