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18 years ago
mjr40
QuotewquercusIt isn't a "cult," it is a way of being Catholic which is recognized by the Catholic Church as completely mainstream. The Opus Dei cult has some of the most sophisticated mind control mechanisms used today. Note that the cult has used money, manipulation, threats and coercion within the institutional Church in order to get itself named a personal prelature. Such a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuotewquercusI've seen posts where you note you are Catholic, that you have a problem with orthodox Catholic teaching (as exemplified by Pope Benedict XVI), and it is clear you don't like Opus Dei. I'm just trying to see what got you so upset that you have so many threads that have "Opus Dei cult" in the title and that led you to post such a detailed "cease and desis
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuoteGulab JamonI just saw something on the news last night about Opus Dei actually attracting new members due to the DaVinci Code. Yes, I have heard some scattered reports to that effect as well. However, in dealing with the Opus Dei cult, I generally try to take what they say turn it around 180 degrees to get some semblance of the truth. It is my feeling that they may be getting some peop
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Quoterrmoderator There is no meaningful evidence to suppor this theory. This is an excellent paper by a physics professor that looks at the materials science involved: ABSTRACT In this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the use of pre-positioned cutter-charges. I consi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
If I may be so bold as to raise a few salient points: - Objects falling at the rate of acceleration due to gravity is proven fact of Newtonian physics. Here it is being applied to the North Tower: - No steel framed strucuture before or after 9/11 has ever went into freefall collapse due to fire - The only way a building can go into freefall collapse is via a controlled demolition f
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Please note that the post in question is not about a conspiracy theory. It is about the proven facts of physics, specifically, the acceleration due to gravity. While we may not agree, but it is important for many to take a second look at what precisely happened that day. It appears that the events of that day are being used as primary cultic psychology tool in induce fear in the general popula
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Perhaps he may be guilty, but some feel that he is not the only one. The physics of the collapses point to others: Video that applies a basic physics equation to the collapse of the North Tower of the World Trade Center on 9/11. Concludes that high explosives were instrumental in the structural failure of the Tower. While this individual appears to display many of the characteristics of
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
# Opus Dei asks "Da Vinci" film makers for respect - Opus Dei feels that is does not get the proper respect from those outside the cult. From Reuters.com. (April 17, 2006) # Opus Dei tries to distance itself from its own magazine - Opus Dei cult tries to distance itself from a magazine it runs in Italy, in another attempt at creating confusion about the institutions it controls. F
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Quoteshakti Admittedly, our government has been less than honest about 911, but floating nonsensical conspiracy theories will not help anyone. It should be noted that the physics involved is hard science, not theoretical: Video that applies a basic physics equation to the collapse of the North Tower of the World Trade Center on 9/11. Concludes that high explosives were instrumental in the s
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
18 years ago
mjr40
Reporter runs interference for controversial Catholic group. Excellent article. From The Irish Echo Online, USA. (March 15, 2006) The entrance to the national headquarters of the Roman Catholic group Opus Dei is the last place you would expect to find mention of "The Da Vinci Code." From Delaware Online. (February 24, 2006) Opus Dei spokeswoman, Terri Carron said the group wil
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Perhaps the question should be termed: "What are the American people doing about the mind control and cultic aspects of the Bush/Cheney administration?" Given that cults constantly lie as a normal part of their modus operandi, consider the following:
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
18 years ago
mjr40
QuotePatience But can you tell me, why the American people dont try to reform their country while they are seeing it changine to a police state or a fascist country?! Why dont you say NO to your administration and of course they wont do to you like what they can do to us here! We now, had enough and say NO, even if the American support to our regime got stronger, we wont return to silence again!!
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
18 years ago
mjr40
The Forbes article on them is quite good: Matt
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
mjr40
Rick is providing a great service to the citizens of America. He and his site provide an enormously valuable source of information about the dangers of mind control cults. Rick has been nothing but open about his activities, past and present; just the fact that he has posted articles about himself on his own site shows that he is open about who he is and keeping the channels of communication fl
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuoteLaura19The next forum in our area is not until October, by then I am hoping his enthusiasm weans towards the program. If not then I will be planning an overnight trip that weekend (that my child is required to attend!) just in case!!! Please, please, please - do not count on your ex-husband's enthusiasm waning before the next Forum. Also, do not discount the possibilty of your ex-hu
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
mjr40
These lawyers seem to have experience with class-action lawsuits against cults like Landmark: Ford Greene of Hub Law Offices in San Anselmo, California, and solo practitioners Charles B. O’Reilly of Marina Del Rey, California, Daniel A. Leipold of Santa Ana, California, and Craig J. Stein of Los Angeles, fought an epic 22-year battle-which included two appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court and suc
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
mjr40
Please be careful! The Landmark cult has a program for children and teens: The Landmark Forum for Young People (Ages 8-12) The power to invent new possibilities; courage to face challenges; and freedom to create, grow, and be fully-expressed. I lost a friend to the Landmark cult as an adult, and now they are starting to ensnare people at younger ages as well. This is par for the course
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
mjr40
# Alito and Opus Dei - A Senate staffer confirmed that the Judiciary Committee received numerous "notes and letters" stating that Judge Samuel Alito is a member of the Opus Dei cult. From Counterpunch. (January 30, 2006)
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Please be careful! The Landmark cult has a program for children and teens: The Landmark Forum for Young People (Ages 8-12) The power to invent new possibilities; courage to face challenges; and freedom to create, grow, and be fully-expressed. I lost a friend to the Landmark cult as an adult, and now they are starting to ensnare people at younger ages as well. This is par for the course
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuoteEric Blair Keep in mind that these people want you to lose it and fall apart and do something crazy so that they can pretend that they are the victims. Hopefully, you can take these guys down through information. Be bold and decisive, but be careful, and most of all, don't be to hard on yourself or your girlfriend. Excellent advice, Eric. Cults are well practiced at knowing
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
As a previous poster mentioned, the signed document does not give consent to criminal actions. Cults will often force and/or coerce their members to sign documents to protect themselves from civil and/or criminal prosecution. Usually they do this to get people to sign money or property over to them. If you can't get him on criminal charges, you may be able to get him on civil charges,
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
Hi - Perhaps you can contact the local police precinct about this so that they can go and visit the guy to talk. In the process, they may find something else to get him on; ie: weapons, assault. Also, if he starts to harass or intimidate you or your girlfriend, you may want to consider using this Cease and Desist Letter/Order: Here are the Oregon state harassment/stalking laws:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
# Alito and Opus Dei - A Senate staffer confirmed that the Judiciary Committee received numerous "notes and letters" stating that Judge Samuel Alito is a member of the Opus Dei cult. From Counterpunch. (January 30, 2006) # Congressional Briefing: Sam Brownback in Rolling Stone - He was baptized not in a church but in a chapel tucked between lobbyists' offices on K Street that
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuoteYellowBeard Mjr40, your points on exaggerated fears is a good call. I don't know how much is simply irrational fears and knee jerk reactions, and how much is fanning of public fears to increase power. I think that would make the difference between being cult-like or simply reactionary and going into a panicky fight or flight mode. Thank you YellowBeard. Your point is a good one -
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuoteToni Did you see the recent flick "Good Night and Good Luck"? George Klooney produced it. Seems politically appropriate to demonstrate similarities to the current administration and historical McCarthy hearings "against communism." Excellent point Toni. "Good Night and Goodluck" (about the McCarthy era) brings up many salient points with regards to the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
# Opus Dei seeks adult rating for Da Vinci Code - Opus Dei attempts to interfere with a Ron Howard movie because it does not portray the cult in a positive light. From The Telegraph, UK. (January 21, 2006) # Call for Da Vinci 'adult rating' - The organisation says children should be protected from what it calls "insidious" lies about Catholicism. From The BBC, UK. (Janua
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
The original poster appeared to assume that the collapse of the World Trade Center was due to the plane impacts. However, the physics of the collapse are simply not consistent with structure failure due to fire, but due to explosive demolition: Hence, one has to question whether the US was in fact attacked, or perhaps the event was conceived as part of a Big Lie syndrome in order to create
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
18 years ago
mjr40
It should be noted that not every American feels that OBL took the World Trade Center down on 9/11. The physics of the collapses are consistent with an explosive demolition, not a structural failure: If this is in fact the case, OBL may be, as a previous poster mentioned, an Emmanuel Goldstein-type figure who the oil-military-industrial complex is using to justify continious war while induc
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
18 years ago
mjr40
Excellent points Maggie. Part of the problem is that the Scientology cult recruiters will set up tables and chairs in "bottleneck" areas of the subways, so people have no choice but to walk past them. This is not only bad in terms of exposing people to the cult, but it is also an extreme safety hazard since it is taking up valuable space in the subways. It should be noted that the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
18 years ago
mjr40
QuoteskinnyfattsI believe a thread like this is exactly the reason that political debate is prohibited. This thread is not about politics; it is about the cultic aspects of our society that have emerged after the events of 9/11.
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