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QuotescrambledeggsNewest celebrity pushing Katie: Rosie O'Donnell [Rosie Riled by 'Orphans' Controversy]
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New Guruphiliac blog entry re Byron Katie: [Whacking "The Work"]
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QuoteSplash90Very very true. We all rock. LOL Yeah, baby. :-D
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QuoteSplash90HM2X, I only put a candle on top of YOUR excellent cake! :) Thanks. :-) The Anticult and Corboy deserve a HUGE amount of credit. They have posted a tremendous amount of information re Byron Katie and so many others. Above all, thanks to Rick Ross for providing this gargantuan forum in which all this info has been housed for so long.
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9 years ago
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Splash90, what a fantastic job you've done gathering all these links. Thanks!
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9 years ago
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QuotedsmLauren, what makes you believe we do not understand the things we criticize? Criticism is not hatred. It is looking at something and seeing what is wrong with it, what can be fixed or thrown out, etc. We all take as much criticism as we give. In fact, criticism is the opposite of hate because it shows we care enough about something to want to pay attention and make it right and we
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9 years ago
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Quotelaurenthere seems to be a few people on here who are kind and caring and seem to want to help, and then there are others... 'helpme2times'....you seem to be in the 'others' category. I don't enjoy your attacks. i don't enjoy your quoting me, i don't enjoy my 'name' in 'quotes' and then have an attack or a dig follow. if this is wha
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9 years ago
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QuotelaurenI have just read through the links re:cults etc. that you mentioned above. Byron Katie is the opposite of these terms mentioned. These terms do not apply to her at all. She is merely helping people to end their suffering. She doesn't do it for them. She shares her experience. She shares what worked for her. Take it or leave it. She doesn't care whether you take it or l
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9 years ago
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QuoteEx-TeacherI was a faculty member of Jaffe's school for 10 years, and I can definitely verify what previous posters have said. My intentions in posting here are to help anyone who is still a member of, associated with, or considering joining this organization, to understand what is happening and, perhaps, to gain a clearer perspective about this. <snip> But then, the stories
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9 years ago
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It seems that Byron Katie wants you to question away your story, or stories. Today I read something opposite to that: QuoteJacqui Banaszynski, Knight Chair in Journalism, University of Missouri:I asked Tomas Alex Tizon, who used to work with me at the Seattle Times, why human beings need stories, and he replied: "Thank God for stories--for those who have them for those who tell them,
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9 years ago
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A cross-post: [Participant Report re Byron Katie's Turnaround House]
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9 years ago
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A report on Byron Katie's Turnaround House. See below. I found it in the comments section of a blog entitled, "One Person's Experience With Byron Katie". "M" says: Quote I have very mixed feelings about Katie and her “work”. I’ve been reading her books and watching her vids for months before I went to Ojai to spend a month in her Turnaround House program.
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9 years ago
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Hi Splash90, I haven't been to this thread of conversation for a while...... welcome, and thanks for your input. :-) HM2X
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9 years ago
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QuoteStoicI don't think it matters if Death Ray is consciously aware of what he is doing or just dumbly following an unconscious pattern he was born with. Either way, he has already proved that he is utterly lethal to his followers and is likely to continue that way. Trying to figure out how intelligent he is or isn't doesn't change how dangerous he is to anyone crossing his path.
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9 years ago
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I recently came upon the following criticism of Byron Katie's "work" by Morten Tolboll: [A Critique of Byron Katie]
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9 years ago
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Sorry Buffman, I nearly forgot to answer you.... I recall at least one participant in a Byron Katie event reporting that quite a few fellow participants had suddenly stopped their medication -- as if BK's approach were a panacea. That's very scary. I'm very curious to read about A.B. Curtiss' non-drug "cure" for depression. I've just obtained a copy of h
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9 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultBen Mack's new slogan...Bluffing them with Bullshit. Its not working. Right. It's not. At least not for some Principia Discordia forum members, cited above, who called Mack on his BS and nastiness. And we know that CCGAL did so too, though in gentler way. Not that I disagree with the strong words some of the Principia members used to communicate with Mack. Sometimes
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QuoteThe Anticulthmm, good point, maybe Dr. Logic was Ben Mack. Actually I doubt that, although I think he/she could be someone discussed in this thread, or something closely connected. I don't think "Dr. Logic" is Mack because the "Logic" personality wrote well, with careful attention to grammar, spelling, etc., whereas Mack has been rather sloppy in his online writ
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9 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultThe only correct word Ben Mack used in his Twitter post was FRAUD. Ben Mack advertises himself as a "Dr" and being an expert in various things he is not an expert at, like NLP. Ben Mack has fabricated his book sales, and rankings, and many other things detailed in this thread. Ben Mack calling himself a "fraud" is the only accurate thing he's said so f
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9 years ago
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Today, Ben Mack has Tweeted: Rick Ross denies me an interview despite his community calling me a fraud, a cult leader and a danger to society. He's afraid of me perhaps? (about 3 hours ago from web) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 23rdian RT @HowardWCampbell Cult "researcher" RickRoss starts w presupposition he can tell churches from cults. Does God tell Rick directly? (about 8 hours ago from
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QuoteCCGALI wrote about the experience in my blog: I did not mention his name, but I think it was obvious to whom I was referring, based on my history. I did as you suggested and read through the blogs, CCGAL. Whew. Why is it that I find YOUR side of the story believable? Thanks for sharing in so much detail. I thought your blog re Pat ended wonderfully: QuoteIt's not always
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QuoteResearchingTruthFor those of you that were not aware, James Arthur Ray was a Scientologist Wow, RT, that is a great find.
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QuoteCCGALQuotehelpme2times <snip> Here is Ben Mack in a video testimonial for an "UnSeminar" given by Joe Vitale: [www.youtube.com] <snip> Just a little footnote in the interest of accuracy, with no offense or criticism intended or implied: Joe Vitale doesn't put on the Unseminars, Pat O'Bryan does. Joe speaks at most or all of them, as far as I know.
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9 years ago
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QuotebuffmanAnother reason why I-BS should be the proper acronym. Heh. IBS also stands for "Irritable Bowel Syndrome".
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9 years ago
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QuoteThe AnticultOSHO Rajneesh was one of the worst, of course. Brainwashing, sexual abuses, mass druggings, poisonings... A little bit about Osho -- aka Rajneesh -- through the eyes of a former follower, who could only partially acknowledge Rajneesh's harmfulness: [www.quackwatch.com]
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9 years ago
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QuoteLoriWThe past couple of weeks reading these threads has meant a lot to me, as I have a much better understanding of my vulnerabilities to different types of persuasion. With all that is going on with James Ray and the "Secret" gurus losing some credibility, they will just try to adapt by adopting other strategies, maybe a more logical, skeptical tone, so beware! These people are ex
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9 years ago
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Hi QD, Yep, I've experienced the same thing. My energy gets a bit sapped during a prolonged bout with a troll. Fortunately I've been balancing things out with some down time; that does help. (Listening to music is particularly good for me.) If it ever gets to be too much, I do what it seems you do: remove myself a while. I imagine that people have varying levels of troll tole
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9 years ago
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Something really interesting has surfaced in connection with this thread. I'll explain below. QuoteHopeSee, right from the start Dr. Logic is talking in absolutes Yes. The "Dr." also insisted that hostility was really fear. How about hostility is hostility and fear is fear? How about distinguishing them? How about having them co-exist, rather than one canceling the other out?
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9 years ago
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A parting communication to "Dr. Logic".... QuoteDr. LogicWhen The Anticult says I deserve to get cussed out, that's not a personal attack? But when I explain that his comment is a poker tell concealing fear, that is a personal attack? Life isn't always fair, so-called doc. I imagine you've existed long enough to have learned that one. I do think you've made a
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This is becoming rather comical, although I don't get the feeling that "Dr. Logic" means for it to be. The Mike Tyson reference is very funny! Here's why.... Wait, let me have Kevin Hogan explain it.... When people's vocal aspects do not seem to match with their physical characteristics, it creates a conflict that may confuse or surprise others. A well-known exa
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