Part of my ongoing therapy has been getting to know the dictionary all over again. Online dictionaries make this task so much easier. And today, the word of the day seemed so fitting. Quotewww.m-w.com The Word of the Day for September 28 is: traduce o \truh-DOOS\ o verb *1 : to expose to shame or blame by means of falsehood and misrepresentation 2 : violate, betray Example sentenc
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Please remember at this time you will be vulnerable to what you read. It is best to see an exit counselor to help prevent you from becoming trapped by other ideologies. I'm talking from experience. These sorts of groups, whether a church or LGAT, condition minds to be more passive to suggestion. It's best to undo this by seeing a professional who is familiar with exit counseling.
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I knew the French had to be good for something besides food. :D (I'm allowed to say that, I'm part French. ) This site had some interesting info, but I'm not sure if it's what you're looking for, Oz.
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I remember the first time I saw "Dr" Phil on Oprah. I just thought, "Oh I've seen this shit before" and turned it off pretty quick. In fact, I haven't watch Oprah since. The cover of his diet book bewilders me because he's not thin. :twisted: I hate the way the American Dream is advertised. I was never taught the American Dream was for conspicuous consum
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liebnitz is just a flamer who only wants to discredit us. It's more than obvious from his posts that all he wants to do is plug Sterling. Obviously since he loves them so much, he must try to discredit our knowledge anyway he can. Apparently educating himself is beyond his reach since he's in brainwash mode thanks to Sterling. Really, liebnitz, don't think we haven't re
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But the ads started to change after Est had been around for a while ... I think that's the more important point.
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Savernake, the link below has a history of LGATs. I'm not sure of its accuracy, but if it's wrong, I'm sure the moderators will correct me. I found it quite interesting. I'm not sure what TM is, but from the behavior you described in your other posts, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was a LGAT or cult. I'm sure you hate New Women, but the fact your
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I think all the old world nations telling us how much we suck gets to us. I've been to Europe and can say we really are not all that different. But from America's inception, this land was seen as nothing more than resources for the European countries. God forbid if we ever produce anything of quality as far as they are concerned, and when we do it is just knocked down anyway. It is
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I don't understand it either, Hope. My major realization is it takes time to admit to yourself you were scammed, which is why akira says take the course but say no to everything else. Unfortunately the course is often held without blame, very much how the guru is held without blame (Thanks Corboy!!!!). But ex-participants always blame the extremists' behavior on the individua
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Quotejohn-lockeAre you a mental health professional? Or are you just speaking from your experience as a patient? So one may only be qualified to judge a professional's behavior if they themselves are associated with said profession? Well then, who would be qualified to judge anyone really? I guess we'll just fold up and let everyone do whatever they want without paying any conseque
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Sterling did landmark courses. I'm not sure to what extent he was involved, but it must have been fairly extensive for him to make his own courses. Just goes to show how unoriginal the "grads" can be. le doesn't know how to live up to the education part of their name. :lol: :lol:
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Kudos to you, Sylvia, for saying No!!!! I read Breaking the Bonds when it first came out. Actually I owe a lot of thanks to Self magazine. Their article, "White-Collar Cults, They Want Your Mind" really helped me put everything together. Even though I had been away from landmark for a while when the article came out, I was having a hard time making sense of it all. That article conf
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QuoteCosmophilospherThat must be a technique of Thought Reform. Take a complex idea from a "famous Genius" so you get Credibility, use the same word he used, but totally pervert and change the MEANING and usage of that word to whatever suits the Cult Leader's interests. Don't forget it's also coupled with an environment that's uncomfortable, very difficult to le
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I thought this was interesting and worth the read: A View From the Eye of the Storm A talk delivered by a famous Israeli scientist at a meeting of the international Advisory Board of a large multinational corporation, April, 2004 As you know, I usually provide the scientific and technological "entertainment" in our meetings, but, on this occasion, our Chairman suggested that I
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I remember being so focused on the FL that I completely forgot about the people next to me and especially the people in the back of the room. I remember focusing so hard because the seating was uncomfortable and I knew I had a long weekend ahead of me, because I wanted to block out the people sitting way to close to me and because I thought I needed to listen since the speaker was so pronounced.
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Does anyone know anything about Archer & Associates? I've browsed the website, but it sounds fluffy. This guy was a speaker at a meeting my husband had to attend.
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Well, since the WizardofOz is confused to what is actually happening at LEC and felt the need to coerce one of our board members to get his post posted, I decided I would clear a few things up for him. Below are the real LEC definitions of the values LE professes: Being extraordinary! = Being a LEC volunteer, being LEC staff, being a Forum leader AND coercing others to take the courses S
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QuotekittypawShe asked again if I'd given her an answer about whether I was coming to the Sat. workshop (Hell no, I thought) but wasn't pesty about it. Thank G-d. I'm sure they still train them to only except the word no as a legitimate answer. Like I was taught, anything other than no was really yes. And then they are trained to ask why you said no, and again the only accept
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Though I wasn't involved with a religious cult, I understand where you're coming from in many ways. I was also only 19 years old when I began my involvement with landmark education. I too loved alternative music and never really felt normal or belonged to any group or clique. I also had a good sense of spirituality, far more than anyone around me expect for my dad, maybe. I wanted t
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What I find incredibly astonishing is that all the 'tweeners sound the same. :shock: They defend their experience with the LGAT and criticize anyone who says LGATs are cults and brainwashing people, BUT YET ....... they say they don't advise people to go even though they think they received a good experience :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: AND they all have the same crappy attitude that
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Well, maybe it does sound vulgar BUT I did get a response. :D Actually, two responses. QuoteSure Alexis...feel free to e-mail us about your experiences (and those of anyone else you may know) Keep in mind that any experiences from other countries would need a lot of weight behind them if we are to be able to justify all the travel involved (for interviews etc) to our finance department.
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I sent them this email QuoteI mean this in no sense as disrespectful, but aren't you interested in the participants from other countries who have had their minds wiped in the orifice that is Warner Erhard's ass, namely the Landmark forum? Believe me, it pains me that an American cropped such a hideous contraption as the forum and its predecessor, est. Perhaps the only redeeming
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Maybe that should be bad wine in a new bottle. :D Ever since my experiences I have questioned if any such life coach is really necessary. Really, I think all these LGATs are the WORST America has to offer as a "product." Truly, it's capitalism at its most seedy. They totally abused our laws of religious freedom and freedom of speech. I was never for censorship, but the
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When I was involved there was a guy who owned a business in a low income/poverty stricken area. He brought one of his regular customers to an Introduction. Though she really wanted to take the course, they wouldn't let her!!! In hind site, I can say that was a blessing for her. But what was horrific was the FL made an example out of her, stating that they don't take people who c
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iScared .... ROFL ...... I wish this board had an emoticon that laughed and roled around. Yes, iScared also. I just wish my income were a little more disposable! :D There are lots of legitimate companies I wish I could dispose some money on!! :)
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QuotesocratesIt is also very impostent to make the distinction between a finely honed mind and an elastic mind. A mind, as also can be true with steel, may be finely honed yet essentially quite rigid. What an extraordinary coincidence!! I happened to have also studied Material Engineering while I was in college. And though it is true that steel can be honed and made quite rigid, the more ela
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QuotesocratesThey would be if they were based on ignorance. I did a SPECIFIC piece of trance work that had healthy outcomes. And I suppose you had a scientific study, reviewed by the scientific community to back up your claim?? Did you do follow-up studies with the participants at 1, 5, 10, 20 year intervals? Your approach was not done as a double-blind study. How can you really be sure your
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Quotesocrates:shock: :idea: :arrow: for whatever it is worth, you might enjoy looking at this fine work of great literature: I hope you're being sarcastic because books like that are exactly the reason why ex-staffers won't give any info out. They don't want to give anyone enough info to write any books on how to mulipulate people. QuotesocratesYour attitude is fatali
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Corboy, I'm beginning to think we are talking about two different things. I have no intension of ever going back into one of landmark's or whatever-future-name-they-might-change-it-to's center. I have no desire to discuss landmark's jargon. I've stated that several times. I know that what they say is crap meant to cause confusion. I am capable of discussin
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Quotecorboyyou cannot 'think your way out of a cult'. Well, yes and no. To physically leave landmark, I had to think of what I would say to them to repel their advances for keeping me there. I left very abruptly without any implicit help/advice from anyone. Family and friends concerns fed my mind unconsciously until I sorted it all out. Believe me when I say that I caused tha
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