Here and there, Ive referred appreciatively to the work of Carl G Jung. Recently, I have found some research done about Jungs own social context, the ideas that formed him, and it appears that he lived in part of Europe that was much like today's seekers scenes in California, Arizona, Totnes UK and Byron Bay, Australia. However, very few ever study Jung using historic and sociologica
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Here and there, Ive referred appreciatively to the work of Carl G Jung. Recently, I have found some research done about Jungs own social context, the ideas that formed him, and it appears that he lived in part of Europe that was much like today's seekers scenes in California, Arizona, Totnes UK and Byron Bay, Australia. However, very few ever study Jung using historic and sociological
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For Readers' Information: I checked this morning, (june 11 2009 8:31AM PST) Guruphiliac's forum and found this: QuoteWe have completed the scheduled maintenance. During the next few ours you may experience degraded performance as the caches are primed, but everything should be back up to speed shortly. Thank you for your patience. Some fine voices have borne witness there, so
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FYI, there has already been a Dharma debate on another internet venue. concerning Ole N. This entire page and the next one is worth a peek.
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Hmm. Here is a matter that all misbehaving male gurus had better contemplate. Laziness, overeating, smoking and drinking are all risk factors for aggressive cardiovascular disease. They're also risk factors for Type 2 diabetes if someone is genetically predisposed. Excess alcohol screws up liver metabolism and can mess up hormones, causing the much dreaded 'man boobs.
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Beware of the Waiting Game Dont let anyone habitually keep you waiting, whether it is a potential date, or a guru. It may be that some abusive people use this as a subtle test to see who will put up with their games and who has enough self respect to remove themselves from the scene. Worse, if you let someone keep you waiting, you signal you are willing to accept whatever abuse they dish ou
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Finally, it is worth facing that many of these Tibetan teachers get prestige by having lots of Western students. It may be that if a Tibetan teacher can win the loyalty of a psychotherapist, or some other professional with good community standing, this is a prize recruit who gives a reassuring presence. A therapist, a physician, a scientist who is used to being his or her own boss may never
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This article deals with 'playing the cultural card' (archived on Internet archive, aka Wayback Machine) How to Spot Abusive Teachers. QuoteHow to Spot Abusive Spiritual Teachers By Yari Use Some Common Sense If a teacher talks what sounds like the good talk, but is sexually promiscuous with his students, committing adultery, or both then this is a red flag. If he is
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Anticult quoted something on another thread about a quite different teacher. But..this section seemed especially good and transferable to other situations. QuoteYou should see the pictures of Crane on his website and he looks like a mildly dorky mid-30's businessman, but you see him in person and he's just a weird old man with these glossed over eyes. I say "eyes&quo
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The Rick Ross Message Board Continuing Education Project Over the years, different members have recommended Carl Sagan's Baloney Detector Kit and his book 'Candle in the Dark', as well as other books by Cialdini. The Nizkor Project, a worthy website dedicated to the purpose of countring Holocaust denialism, offers yet more resources. Fallacies This is a list of 42
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Deceit & Misrepresentation The Techniques of Holocaust Denial The "Science" of Denial,the Denial of Science (to get the active links cited on this page, go to the Nizkor Project website) QuoteWriter: Mike Stein In recent years, Holocaust deniers have turned to "scientific" arguments to "prove" that the Nazi regime could not have used gas cham
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Note: Go to the search button, top right corner of this window. Open the search window. Put Amebhara into the author slot and do all dates. Then run the search. Read all of A's posts. The first one QuoteI also think it's important to discuss something and not just attack it. If somebody had a good experience, it's OK to say that. I think it's way to
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Yeah. There is a certain type of person who hops either from guru to guru, or in Anticult terms, is a seminar junkie. We had someone disrupting LEC discussions years back. The person was very suave, seemed a wise but slightly condescending sophisticate of the Human Potential scene. This person seemed to have taken just about every LGAT that existed, including certain ones very much more exp
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(quote)I have to interject here to say that I'm disappointed that amhebera has been banned because of the very recent contributions he's made to the thread about Bayard Hora/Gavin Barnes right next door to this thread. (unquote) Someone can make valuable contributions concerning Group A, and yet have a disruptive/trollish pattern of behavior in a discussion concerning Group B. In
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What is described above is what I call the onion model--a socially structured lie. Members on the outer layers get a benign version of the organization, and often experience genuine personal benefit. But the outer circle members are kept unaware of the anxiety, fear, social control and suffering visited upon members of the inner circle--and in this case, on those trying to join the inner c
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To supplement what Mr Ross has written: This board has been running for 7 years, now. Landmark tried to sue us out of existence and not only failed to do so, the case was dismissed 'with prejudice', meaning LEC cannot sue RR.com again. LEC wants to hog the microphone and control communication and cant stand the existence of anything where a viewpoint exists that cannot be controll
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Could it be that trolling RR.com is a way to get promotion within certain organizations? That way, if a person gets abused later on in that organization and leaves, they may feel afraid to come onto RR.com fearing they made themselves unwelcome by loyally trolling here for their organization--before discovering said organization set them up for abuse. I once saw some mormon missionaries i
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That 23 year old cockroach been very good to BK. And yes, our stories do not matter, but her story does matter and gets told and retold. Double standard. Imperialism, whether territorial, or emotional imperialism, is when one persons story is made to replace and displace other people's stories. Meanwhile, BK should show her gratitude to the Holy Cockroach by wearing a gold penda
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Regarding BK-ology and kids The last thing kids need to be taught is how to turn things around against their parents. I think it might be inspirational for us to do a Seventies music revival and go listen to 'We Dont Need No Education' by Pink Floyd, from their great album, The Wall. Truly amazing how coincidence works. The Work The Way and... as a consciousness rai
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This person is probably under pressure to bring in as many new converts as possible. You are not a person to her, just a potential trophy. She may be under pressure. There is no reasoning with her. Anticult's advice is great. Do not disclose the slightest frailty or misfortune in your life-- dont mention having a stubbed toe, or that your cat has puked on the carpet or th
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"I Did Not Want To Be One of Those Suffering Clowns This article is full of great material. And it shows how genuine therapy is transacted. Dont be content with these small snippits. The article is six pages long. Dont deprive yourselves. (quote)III. What Does It Mean to Have a Life of One's Own? With a wraithlike air, the Zen master accepted a seat on a black leather couch
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Additional Platinum Posts BK work is NOT the same as cognitive therapy--an excerpt from a lengthy and detailed analysis Quoteothers who promote The Work often say...its like Cognitive Therapy? That is a salespitch one can see in many blogs promoting The Work, its a marketing strategy, trying to associate itself with CT. First off, The Work has nothing to do with CT. Nothing. The
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The TP/BK Technique--or Removing New Age Dingleberries From Our Minds I published this and just 4 hours later this seemed to elicit a strangely intense reaction from our banned visitor--a BK loyalist. QuoteJust like you do? Good grief, man! Do you think that someone sees Katie as not human? So this little technique, which I made up for fun, may actually be effective enough to challeng
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Welcome, 'jchpiper' You shared something of yourself here by mentioning your ability to recognize when youve been the binder. 1) It is rare to see respectful non-coercive use of power being modelled in this society. We tend to learn from witnessing and experiencing what our parents and adult care providers did for us or to us. Recognizing one doesnt want to behave this way is th
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And one big problem is that once a rinpoche or lama gives an endorsement, that endorsement remains. No matter how badly the endorsed person later behaves, no rinpoche or lama will ever say, 'I made a mistake. Dont follow this guy any more.' At least in France if a restaurant is awarded stars in the Guide Michelin, the GM will REMOVE the stars if that restaurant fails to maintain
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PS Here is a way to get BK out of your mind. Keep a bottle of windex or alcohol gel handwash by your computer, and some paper towels or kleenex. (A roll of TP is even better) If BK's mug shows up on any website you frequent, spray with your cleaner. Wipe. Toss into trash. Repeat as needed This will guarantee you not only have a newly cleaned mind, but a clean computer sc
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Regarding the 9 day school, there is a participants report on this other venue. It runs to six pages, as of today and many attempts were made to disrupt the discussion, including the kind of ad hominem attacks that are against the rules of use on RR.com. The person wrote in detail. And began by saying QuoteJust completed Byron Katie's 9 Day School (March '09). I am disappoin
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Take a peek at this article, especially the section labelled 'The Reversal' Sound familiar?
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On the website where I found the above material, there is a subection on Double Bind in the LDS. It might be interesting to see if readers can identify similarities. Main site: exmormormon.org LIFE AFTER MORMONISM and THE DOUBLE-BIND QuoteMy main symptom was that I could never quite think, or do things "right" --- I felt and thought that something must be terribly wro
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The Commitment Pattern--it is used by LDS outreachers (Note to potential disruptors: The purpose of todays post by Corboy is not to raise issue with the LDS. I am doing is to highlight covert Sales Techniques. These techniques need to known and understood so that we can recognize their covert usage by anyone, no matter what their ideology or group afflition) It may be that the LDS may
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