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3 months ago
metanoia
grok Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for that additional explanation, mesche, > that helps me understand a bit more what you're > saying > > > metanoia Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I got the impression that there was a lot of > > spiritual ego going on as a result of t
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
3 months ago
metanoia
oneclickwonder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I actually tend to believe that there is a > spiritual level to reality and have tended to > before my time at CV. I found the experience of > seeing purple lights and vibration in the eye to > be intense as I did with a number of other > techniques from the school. > > I'm not s
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
4 months ago
metanoia
I think it is so, so complicated, confusing, and hard to be discerning when there is also something of substance being offered along with the toxic bits. The techniques they teach clearly do something--it's not an out-and-out fraud. I'm just not convinced that they do what the school says they do, or that they can take me where I want to go. It is really hard to figure out if you should
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
4 months ago
metanoia
Quotegrok -If you go on to advanced levels of the Clairvision work, you will be required to accept certain activities many would consider spiritual abuse as a normal part of your path to enlightenment. Quotegrok -Members engage in activities that they would have previously though were reprehensible grok, would you be willing to share examples of these kinds of occurrences?
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
4 months ago
metanoia
mesche Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > About the apocalyptic flavor. Many of the students > I met trained for the future and the big > technological changes that are happening right now > in our world as discussed in the books he wrote. > That meant training for a war that will come in a > few hundred years where masters from the archiv
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
4 months ago
metanoia
Grok, Mesche, these details are incredibly helpful to hear--feeling much better about my decision to not get involved. A few follow-up questions, if you're willing to answer them: QuoteGrok There is a lot hidden, and it may take several years to see things really going on in the school. They will make you feel comfortable and safe to bring you deeper into the folds in these early courses
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
4 months ago
metanoia
Thanks for posting this, orangegrl. The piece that stands out to me here and that I'm curious about is the 'Esoteric Christianity' bit--I know that Clairvision at least acknowledges relationship with Rudolf Steiner's work, but it definitely does not present itself as any variety of Christian in its forward-facing materials...for those who have been more involved with the sc
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
9 months ago
metanoia
Addendum to the above message--received a reply; this individual seems to also have had bad experiences with the school but does not want to share more at this time.
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
9 months ago
metanoia
Just some follow-up here: I recently received a private message from an individual with the following text: "Hi, I wonder if you would be willing to share more about your experience with Clairvision? Would you be open to sharing which of the Clairvision instructors/IST practitioners you had this experience with? Or at least which city you were in where this happened? I have also bee
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse
9 months ago
metanoia
I had a very strange set of experiences with a couple of Clairvision students/practitioners a few years back that set off red flags for me and led me to this thread. Two young women came to some local events in my city and introduced themselves as being really into meditation/spiritual practice...so far so good, it's always nice to make friends who are interested in the kinds of things I
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