To All, It is now 1 year and one week since my ex-girlfriend did her first Landmark course, The Forum and 10 months since she left this white collar cult. I write this update for the purposes of assisting anyone who has lost their loved one to Landmark. Her identity, as is mine, is protected. We are back in communication after her "closing the door" about 5 to 6 times since thi
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Thanks for the study Hope. This theory also works well for those loved ones who are spiralled into depression when their partner enters an LGAT and leaves them for someonelse in their new found group. Oz
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Hi Montreal, Welcome to the board and I am sorry to hear of your experience. Your hunches about LE are spot on the mark. I lost my girlfriend to this a year ago. She is now out of it - I dragged her out kicking and screaming which has damaged any possibility of us getting back together. My advice is that you need to understand that it is a rough road if you decide to do something about
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Acid - keep the idea afloat. All is needed is a few columns NAME RELATIONSHIP WHAT HAPPENED (50 words) CURRENT STATUS Oz
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Further to the information in this thread, I came across some brief information that Landmark Education has been filed as a cult by the Interministerial Mission for Awareness against Sectarian Risks in France and its practice of employing unpaid assistants to run courses is now illegal: Does anyone know antything more substantiative? Oz
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Good luck Canadacat. A former member of this board often commented about Canadian emergency units in Hospitals dealing with Landmark candidates who had experienced psychotic breaks during courses. Also mentioned was the fact of Landmark being banned from holding courses in several Canadian Hotel complexes due to disturbances. Sorry I can't be more specific as to Hotel names, hospita
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Please refer to the thread on this board as to research feedback: Media & Academic Research into Landmark & LGATs Oz
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Please refer to the thread on this board as to research feedback: Media & Academic Research into Landmark & LGATs Oz
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Recently, journalists from TV and magazines/newspapers have requested people to come forward with their first hand accounts involving Landmark Education and their courses. Students from universities have also requested interviews for research projects. I applaud these projects. It would be helpful if this board received some feedback from the requestors: 1. When the article or TV produc
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Acid - Well put!
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kelkay1, There needs to be more studies like this done. Interviewing people prior to going into Landmark, is like interviewing people prior to injecting themselves with heroin. This is a serious issue. People are not guineapigs. Oz
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Glam - I have written about my experience in what caused Jane to think twice on a number of threads. if you do a search on my profile these will come up. I do need to consolidate my writings on this in the future. At the moment, I can say this: Key variables in the Landmarkian having second thoughts are: 1. Intervention is done sooner rather than latter before the LE philosophy becomes be
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Hi akira76, You wrote: "but I would like to point out that I experienced the course and kept everything that I could use in my life and threw away that what I could ot use " Do you feel comfortable to disclose what you threw away in you life? Thanks Oz :)
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John-Locke: Can we assume that by you using the name of this 17th Centuary British Philosopher that you may value his thoughts: [b]"It is one thing to show a man that he is in error, and another to put him in possession of truth." (John Locke: Essay Concerning Human Understanding, bk. IV, ch. 7, sec. 11.) I have noticed that your postings seem to pull down what others say without
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Glam - As you have asked, here is the progress of Jane's proceedings. I only write this for the purposes that it may help people out there to know how things can end: * Late Sept 2003 - my ex went into Landmark. * Early December 2003 - she left it through a mix of exhaustion, my urging for her to leave it and a feeling within her that LE did not seem kosha * Late February 2004 - After
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Glam/Parrot, I'm sad to hear that your friend is going down the promiscuous path. It seems to be a common way amongst them. They are told in the InAction Seminar that sex is not love, it is "mechanical". Many months after my ex left Landmark and relaised that she was brainwashed, in conversation she remarked that our last intimate kiss, (the day after the Forum), was "mecha
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Ellen - Besides what is already on this thread, the only other thing I can remember that GC wrote was from the Marketing aspect of Landmark. it went something like this: 1. The Landmark Forum is the Door opener 2. The Advanced Course at 2.5 times the price of The Forum is the cash cow. Most people leave Landmark after this course 3. Self Expression and Leadership (SELP) is at a much reduced
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Glam, What you write is good advice and what is available on the RR site on this matter is the right way to go. It is about having respect for the Landmarkian and their situation. Problems occur when the Landmarkian or even exLandmarkian if they have not been properly exit counselled, make lifestyle changing decisions based on the flawed philisophical teachings of Landmark that impact the &
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Being Friends with a Landmark Person can be summed up like this: From the Landmarkian perspective, you are in their life because they have allowed it on their terms as they create all the possibilities in their own life in a godlike fashion. They give meaning according to their whim to all events, objects and people in their life. A person who is in a relationship with a Landmarkian is objecti
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Coz and all, From the very start of my investigations into LGATs back in October 2003, people were labeling the symptoms of "transformed" participants as consistant with Bipolar Disorder. We need to be very careful in apply labels like these as we are not psychatrists. However, it does not take a genius to observe the consistencies in participant symptoms and those laid out in the DS
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Lonnie49 - I have not seen you on this board before so welcome. I would like to answer your last question first: "I wonder if there are LGAT groups that are any good at all?" To answer this, we must first recognise that Large Group Awareness Training seminars, (LGAT), are a form of psychological process intended to fast-track a participant from a current way of "thinking&quo
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Aurora - It is the lying that hurts. It is the secretiveness that hurts too. For me, it first came in my LGAT participation. I recall a journalist telling me how he was invited by the leader of my LGAT, Robert Kiyosaki - "Money and You", to do a story on him. It was 1am on Sunday morning when groups of 5 were playing the "blocks game", trying to communicate the essence of
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Aurora - It is the lying that hurts. It is the secretiveness that hurts too. For me, it first came in my LGAT participation. I recall a journalist telling me how he was invited by the leader of my LGAT, Robert Kiyosaki - "Money and You", to do a story on him. It was 1am on Sunday morning when groups of 5 were playing the "blocks game", trying to communicate the essence of w
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This week on one of the major FM stations Robbins was advertised as coming to Sydney in September. He seems to come here every 2nd or so year. Soon we will see the TV adverts for him. He does not seem to age or is it the same old film clip from the '80s. I dread more of my country folk falling for his traps. What can we do? Seriously - How can we stop these LGAT and cult guys. As I
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Aurora - I congratulate you on your honesty in answering COz's question: "Have you been WANTING to go to his seminars? Or WANTING to buy more programs, etc?" I thank Coz for asking this question too. it has raised some questions for me. From an emotional perspective, (and I am cringing as I write this), I wished that my LGAT was not a con. While it deeply sadens me to wi
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Please refer to this RR thread for extensive details on "Miracle Of Love" Oz
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Hi Aurora, Up to October 2003, I still had many sayings and "words" from my LGAT, (Robert Kiyosaki's "Money and You") running around in my head from my participation in 1991-2. Oct. 2003 is the time when I was no longer in denial about my LGAT. Prior to that date I somehow still thought of it positively though parts of my conscience attributed my LGAT experience to
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Back to Dervish's question of cults adopting kids. Yes and in Victoria, Australia. 60 Minutes produced a story on 25 July 2004 exposing an infamous woman by the name of Anne Hamilton-Byrne who ran her own cult and abducted newly born babies from hospitals with the help of cult member doctors and nurses. This is one of the most hidieus cult stories I have come across - please read the o
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The LGAT concept of "Miracle Of Love" reminds me of some thoughts I had in 1991 but more on that at the end... The 6 Day "Intensive", LGAT differs in its labeling of the state of Transformation with other LGATs. (note the website has a registered mark on "Intensive", a common word - I didn't think that was permissible) As discussed in other threads, the T
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At the risk of throwing you off on a wrong tangent, is the "Miracle of Love" a rebranding of "A Little Course in Miracles" Oz
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