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20 years ago
corboy
that Silva is down to earth at all. My therapist has 20 years experience treating persons with dissociative/trauma disorders and has special training in trance and PTSD/dissociative disorder therapy. He winced and uttered a very heavy groan when I offhandedly mentioned Silva Method. My therapist has been around the block and would not react that way if he had not seen or heard of casualtie
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20 years ago
corboy
to supplement what Elena mentioned several posts above, I have identified a special form of lying one that is very powerful: Something factually true/spiritually authentic is used to serve a much larger and more pervasive lie. I discovered this over 10 years ago when dealing with a manipulative, narcissistic boss who was heavily into Catholic spirituality. (He's become a Roman Catholi
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20 years ago
corboy
in the US.. Before you start your group, chris, I advise having some private e-mail conversations with Rick Ross. You need to safeguard the privacy of your group and protect yourself from vindictive lawsuits. You need advice on security for your group., your documents, and if you set up a website, get expert advice on how to protect it. .
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20 years ago
corboy
Recovery from a cult takes place in several stages. You cannot get a sense of existential meaning from your suffering until after you've fully traced the extent to which you were 1) manipulated and 2) suffered -- and continue to suffer only after completing steps 1 and 2 do we have sufficient foundation to go on to 3) seek a sense of meaning in the suffering and (where appro
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20 years ago
corboy
for a cognitive 'Micky Finn' I found this on a discussion for an entirely different cult -- Elan Vital. But it seems to apply to problematic LGATs and I think it may also be a key aspect to how many, many toxic spiritual imposters function: 'I finally grasped that Maharaji thrives on the mixed message: independence/devotion, honesty/secrecy, trust yourself/trust the master. O
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20 years ago
corboy
I suggest checking with a lawyer, too. Abusive people and groups get away with a lot because their victims are usually so exhausted that they usually want to 'put it all behind them' and get on with their lives. But if you at least consult a lawyer and perhaps arrange for the lawyer to do something (go to court and get an injunction forbiddng future harassment/defamation) that may
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20 years ago
corboy
You and your husband did good. I was worrying that you were still there--from your description the place sounded toxic as hell, and I was afraid you might never get out. Hopefully that dame is so nutso that your friends and associates will know she's a whack job. But what a classic set up--drive someone insane and then accuse them of being crazy. If there is a local computer bu
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20 years ago
corboy
and always get a check up to rule out any medical/physiological condition that could be lousing up concentration. (Low thyroid condition can cause mental fog, as can insulin resistance/diabetes, too) Additional resources: PLAY--true playfulness is an early casualty of cult involvement. Cults create robots and robots dont play. Chase dogs around the park. Do things that help you giggle wi
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20 years ago
corboy
you did the right thing. Your story is now here for others to read, so they can take heed. And, perhaps, perhaps, all that you told your friend will someday surface and be available to her when she dares to entertain a moment of doubt. Some seeds sprout after longer periods of time than others. Take care of yourself. Enjoy your beer but dont over do it. If you're feeling really frau
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20 years ago
corboy
Together with Dutch assistance, the liberal English political establishment booted out an English king (Jame 11 1688) who was trying to subvert English political institutions & kept pushing his belief system on people who didnt want it. (does this sound familiar?) The Whigs and the Dutch helped kick James out, and preserved the English rule of law. The Dutch and the UK together helped
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20 years ago
corboy
Group work. I only began to get a handle on how crazy my family was when I began attending a group for adult children of alcoholics. Later, getting involved at a Zen practice center helped. What you want are situations where you can associate with people who are either 1) being honest or 2) working as sincerely as they can to become honest. That gives you a standard of comparison by which you
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20 years ago
corboy
resembles the pattern used in TM (Transcendental Meditation) (for more info go to www.factnet.org) People are taken through a ritual that puts them in a trance and given a mantra (a slogan to repeat during twice daily personal meditation sessions). The mantra maintains and deepens the trance. Over time, many TM practitioners start spacing out, get anxiety reactions. All mental heal
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20 years ago
corboy
I have not been thru LGATs, GC and Hope. So I needed the reminder that many survivors have meme trigger problems that can disrupt concentration. The meme posts were long partly because I was quoting large sections from articles by other people (Blackmore and Dawkins.) Will see about doing the following when I write future posts: 1) Use simple declarative sentences more frequently instead
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20 years ago
corboy
I just got back from a 7 day Zen retreat, and am rather punchy from lack of sleep. It was great. Your posts look fascinating. I want to read them after I get some sleep so I can give it my quality attention. Guy, you said my posts can be difficult to read because your old memes get re-triggered and it affects your ability to read and remember certain information. You said my posts were diff
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20 years ago
corboy
No, Elena, I never heard of THAT one. Inflicting massive trauma as a means to enlightenment is sometimes passed off as a legitimate form of teaching--but IMO is more likely to leave the recipient with a whole new set of scars on top of whatever they started with. The scary thing is, the poor guy probably had to PAY for the whole miserable weekend in which the shit was piled on him. Wonder
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20 years ago
corboy
you can read it here For every group, this site includes the official website of the group, if available, along with critical information. High demand, authoritarian groups often try to shield their members from information or social contacts that undermine their doctrine, training methods and long term agendas. By contrast, RR.com has a site 'The Hall of Flames' where pe
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20 years ago
corboy
with lots of people, was asked intrusive, personal questions by total strangers, got called an asshole, a cold hearted ****, and many more ghastly names than those. Best thing is, I didnt have to pay a dime to go through any this. I was so clever that someone paid ME to do it! Learned all about my shit, my hang ups, my 'racket', other people's 'rackets'--and I got
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20 years ago
corboy
Be careful about curiousity--just like glittering lures for fish, it can be used against us. I used to patronize a bicycle shop where one of the mechanics was a former biker. His gang had been like the Hell's Angels, but more obscure. One day, it was warm and X had his shirt sleeves rolled up, displaying a veritable gallery of tattoos. I pointed to one of them and asked, 'What
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20 years ago
corboy
Its very possible. We are finding out that people who are already infected with certain micro-organisms are more likely to become infected with virulent micro-organisms. I am not a Christian and had no bone to pick with the 'New Age', but recently began to wonder whether certain mental habits that are common in New Age circles make people more vulnerable to induction into destructive
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20 years ago
corboy
Dear PJ this article is about an entirely different group than the one your sister is in. But it has some highly insightful observations that could perhaps tie in with what you have described of your sister's behavior in relation to Weston Jolly 'Like many other religious and/or New Age movements, IYI often attracts people that are drifting, stressed out and/or unhappy about thei
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20 years ago
corboy
From "Viruses of the Mind' by Dawkins, a contributor to meme theory. Dawkins wrote with some asperity for he'd found that his ex-wife sent their 6 year old daughter for Roman Catholic instruction without her father's knowledge or consent. Dawkins used Catholicism as an example of a memetic 'virus of the mind'. Roman Catholics and devout Christians will probabl
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20 years ago
corboy
I could not yet find the U R Being Manipulated site but did find a collection of other items worth investigating. I included a citation for Dick Sutphen's very detailed article listing various methods of manipulation. A Discussion of The Delphi Technique General Overview of the Social Psychology of Manipulation [216.239.57.104] Dick Stuphen’s Battle For Your Mind
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20 years ago
corboy
even though you never officially joined. Here is a possible angle on what they are demanding of you--see if it fits: *Never showing any negative emotions at work, or in front of clients. This includes "being obviously quiet" There is a researcher named Paul Ekman who has spent over 20 years mapping the micro expressions of the human face the correspond to emotions. He can '
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20 years ago
corboy
'Never showing any negative emotions at work, or in front of clients. This includes "being obviously quiet" That's a recipe for a nervous breakdown right there. They may be trying trying to suck you in by 'sculpting' your behavior. By making you behave in all these ways, eventually this will shape your mind and emotions to their specifications. Its a well kn
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20 years ago
corboy
especially when you are under stress, trust someone, and were perhaps already in a subtle trance. When I protested, he softly answered that it wasn't a personal attack on me, it's just the way human beings are. His tone and manner made everything ok, but I know now my mind was struggling with an insult, yet was trying to understand. There's verbal content of a message and
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20 years ago
corboy
'deconditioning' by some. Timothy Leary the LSD guru believed that if people could be stripped of all (or most) of their prior conditioning, they could be re-programmed with better ways to live and eventually the whole human race would evolve. Stuff like this was big in the Sixties and still lingers today in various New Age venues. (See Gary Lachman's book 'Turn Off Your Mind-
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20 years ago
corboy
I have read through the testimonials of the unsatisfied participants and though the testimonials were rather enlightening they did seem a little devoid of the specific details relevant to my inquiry. go here ctyme.com/bwash/bwash.htm This article gives an amazing overview of various persuasion techniques.
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20 years ago
corboy
the Karma Commandos! Yes, I've fantasized about this. You'd want a cadre of persons trained in social psychology, meditation and who can withstand the stres of participating in these marathon sessions--so, very likely, they would need to be athletes. Someone could write a brilliant series of novels about this. I stink at writing fiction or I would give it a try.
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20 years ago
corboy
For a provocative paper that describes the theory behind what Guy Fawkes has been telling us, go to 'Welcome to the Meme Lab' and read the paper 'A Beginner's Guide to Memes' by Dr Susan Blackmore. It is best to read the paper before responding to the material on this post. Blackmore's paper is well written and can be understood by anyone who is interested i
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20 years ago
corboy
I can see why you're scared for your sister. WJ now knows via your e-mail that your sister is compromising her financial welfare and her loved ones are scared for her. Document everything. Consult a lawyer and consider sending WJ a registered letter. Otherwise he or his office staff could say they never got the e-mail. If a certain bar or nightclub generates too many brawls and sho
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