I am taking a great risk sharing my personal story in here. I have seen way too many posts debunking this and debunking that. If your mind is not open enough, you may want to refrain from going forward in reading my story. I am asking you to have great compassion and respect for me sharing this in here. My heart, my body, my psyche are shattered in 20000 pieces. It is for those who believe t
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P.S just wanted to clarify that the video I linked from the clash of the titans is to explain how I see the SoI: A love, fear, pain, bliss... emotion factory. All mixed together. People are just emotions. The minds are only used in service. It is the right path imbalance. Imagine if love, fear were a currency. They would make billions. This clip kind of spoke to me in this way. In case it d
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The warfare in my own life is very real. My leaving the cult was very costly and still is. I am not sure why I am so important to the forces behind this path, that they must put so much effort into playing these games. Love and devotion cannot be forcefully taken by giving me a bliss crack pipe. Then torture me on the side by putting me into the care of the nazi butler disciples. No sir! That
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My friend run forest run, I have great respect for you calling these bastards out. You see that SoI cesspool with 20/20 vision and I agree that the time has come for it to stop. Yes they better avoid this forum because it is like the kind of light that turns vampires into ashes. They are better off hiding behind the excuse that demons are trying to destory the mission of their lord and maste
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I thought I would be able to close the doors on the SoI doors. But when I look back at my tragectory and all the pain that was imposed upon me in the group and when I left, I am not able to do that. Malcolm X said: “We did not land on planet Rock. Planet Rock landed on us”. I did not chose this path. It forcefully entered my life. When I was 12 this philosphy was injected into my psyche.
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One thing people must know is that the boat accident must be very obviously a scam. If that other disciple had truly caused the death and ruin their reputation, he would be banned and thrown into the eternal dog house. When those money hungry monsters ask for donations all the time and make people work for free till 3 AM, would pay for a top lawyer? Hello? Do you believe in Santa? No need to
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Is this man truly worthy of these prayers? How we have been fooled. Belief is so powerful. 1) The lotus feet of our spiritual master are the only way by which we can attain pure devotional service. I bow to your lotus feet with great awe and reverence. By your grace one can cross the ocean of material suffering and obtain the mercy of Krishna. 2) My only wish is to have my consciou
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We should NEVER fall for the mystical traps that sent us to this path and kept us there. We all had many red flags in our hearts we did not listen to. People do not fall for the simulated synchronicities and bliss. It is all a golden prison. A loving god would not want you to be treated like this in a spiritual community. Wake up! Not all that glitters is gold. To hell with the transcenden
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Dawatcher just wanted to make it clear that I don’t want to trash Balakhilya’s family. They are decent people. They just happen to have the priviledge of being related to a guy who is well connected. They also do not know how ugly it is to take advantage of those privileges and be treated differently than us, just lowly non elite devotees. May they never find out how ugly and unfair it all is
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This scene from the matrix is what happened to me when I first dared google butler in 2015. They should replace the word matrix with the science of identity. Entering this forum is the ultimate red pill. Not for the faint at heart. Stay in the cult and be blissed out by the nectar of devotion and enjoy your slavery. Leave the cult and find out that you were a slave and that your master is an
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We cannot let butler’s main men get away. We must also give credit to the cult leader’s co creators. The secondary false idols. So let us talk about johnny midgett aka balakhilya das. The entity who travels to all the centers in the world. Treated like a superstar. Most worshipsble lord after butler. The one who watches abuse going on at many centers and never stops them. Who cares about dev
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This is your farewell gift Dawatcher. Frameit and hang it in your washroom. Because this guru does not belong on the altar but in the toilet. Form quotesman: "You are all demons, you are just like fucking ISKCON, You’re all condemned!!!" "I am not condemning you, you are condemning yourself." "My Godbrothers in ISKCON are clumps of dog stool.” &quo
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Leaving the cult of Chris butler and Krishna has been quite a long, painful, interesting, enlightening journey. I had always been a truth seeker since I was a child and never felt attracted to the material construct. I mostly wanted to know where I come from and where we are going when we finally leave this body. Due to my personal family dynamics and genes, I was very prone to depression and
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You are right Dawtcher to say farewell. It has been quite a journey cruising this forum. I have realized that the American people are more interested in Tulsi being cute and sounding normal. I guess that since the bar is set very low, she passes for a superstar. Nobody seems to care she is linked to a cult leader but us. She has no shame like her master to lie to millions of people. They
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Welcome to the age of Kali. This is from the Kalki purana prophecies. “Even those who are known as twice-born [ spiritually initiated] are devoid of all good behavior, without any observance of proper etiquette, and always engaged in the service of the lowest classes.” These fallen souls are very fond of dry arguments, and they use religion as a means of livelihood, teach Vedic knowledge
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Never forget to have compassion for our brothers and sisters who got abused by this monster. Kitcen policies 1996 (possibly New Zeland or Australia) Rule D 5: Don’t be late with dinner delivery. Every minute late is 10 dollars (6.98)us dollars. Those heartless ........ even converted the currency Rule D 27: Don’t talk to S or V unless totally necessary to ensure them of their privacy.
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Da Watcher that woman who helped the homeless for 20 years and was never initiated, is one of the lucky ones. To officially give your life to butler is the greatest misery a soul can go through.
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People must find out who butler really is behind his sweet lectures. When he does that closing his eyes real hard and makes it look he is so sincere and humble. And the OSCAR for best actor goes to: chris butler for his role in “The 33rd Acarya”. Who is the real person behind the misleading emotions and signals we get in our hearts that he is a pure devotee... Because sincerely this is ho
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Run Forest Run thank you for your response. I appreciate your deep thinking. Yes my experiences are mine and they do not really benefit anyone else. I do not think you imagined those experiences with the deities. I have had experiences pretty much all my life and even before I entered the path of Bhakti Yoga. I do not think they have made me a better person other than making me realize that
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This video almost made me sick. It is way too real and true.
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Please watch this short video on how people are mind controlled into a cult. I cannot believe I got fooled. Everybody in the world needs to watch this.
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My experiences may me very differnt. However for those who have doubts about what I say, somebody has written a book. As I said t before, we cannot just speak of this path without considering the extraordinary aspect of it. Why people get so hooked and attached. Otherwise we all pass for a bunch of lunatic, mindless, weaklings who just got brainwashed by a mortal guru. I think I am the only p
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I have been part of this forum and community for a few months now. I am asking you all to receive what I am saying with an open mind, compassion and a very open heart. I know that it is not easy to enter my reality without judging my lucidity. However I can assure you that unfortunately I do not make things up. If you ever read my post on “the mystical forces that led me to to K...”, you will
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Just wanted to make it clear that by taking justice in my own hands, I meant exposing them even more outside of this forum. Nothing extreme! Also it is still a mystery to me how some so called divine forces allow such horrible things to happen. The priests abusing kids, the abuse in the Krishna community, the fanaticism in islam.... I just know that a good teacher can create an atmosphere o
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Thank you Forzen Nick. I appreciate that you believe me and that you have appreciation for my honesty. My experiences go beyond the sweet connections with the deities. It is on the level that most people think it was psychosis. But I know that all that I have experienced is real and do not need validation. I may be one of the only people who faced the cult directly and told them everything I r
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Thank you George.
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When butler decided to create a more godly society with his secret weapon: Tulsi Gabbard, he did not know he would shoot himself in the foot. A man who thinks that he is the voice of god on earth and who is actually shaming the Parampara. It took decades of damaging many souls for him to finally get what he deserves. I feel sorry for Tulsi. I hope one day she will realize that it was not wort
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I believe that each soul is on their individual journey. And each person is on a different level of spiritual maturity. This place is a huge spiritual supermarket. Abrahamic religions, The vedas, new age, Eastern philosophies.... I don’t think there is a right or wrong path and I try my best not to judge other’s tragectories. I have had many mind blowing experiences with the path and I have n
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Not all theories are correct and not all are wrong. I have experienced and seen things with my eyes that no conspiracy theory can even cover. This is why I try to keep an open mind. But I do understand that it can be extremely disturbing to one’s peace of mind. Discernment is key.
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In all my years of chanting I was never given the impression that the ultimate goal was to be a gopi. we were told that our relationship would be revealed to us and it could be any of the 5 Rasas. Bye for now. See you guys later!
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