Current Page: 10 of 11
Results 271 - 300 of 320
1 year ago
Truth wins
On the internet you can for sure find things. But almost nothing in here. That shows me that his followers are either scared or too devoted. To claim to be an Avatar of God gives one permission on whole different level. Of course those who believe that are also very naive. They have fallen in a deep hole. That stuff is worthy of a documentary like holly hell.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
I was horrified to hear the testimonies of few men about the founder of Bhakti Marga. I cannot believe there is almost nothing on him written here. That almost none of his “devotees” is speaking up. Just a few people including some men who were lured by him. He is also one of those money grabbing gurus and there. I sure hope noone ends at his Ashram. This guy is next level horrible. But
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Another theory that keeps disciples very loyal and grateful the guru is the fact that they are “supposedly” taking on their Karma. If anyone was to take on soleley my heavy Karma, their backs would break in one day what to speak of thousands and thousands of people’s Karma. Many disciples sill suffer from very rough material and physical conditions. This is another thing the people must take
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Now that I am not afraid to judge, I see that there are many things in the Vedas that are as detrimental as the Abrahamic religions. The whole mad elephant offense that gives protection to any fishy “guru”. The whole fear of offenses in general that stops people from discerning or calling others out. Suggesting suicide in case you are offensive to Guru... And the process is truly demanding i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Now that I am throw back into the SoI vortex, I might as well share the testimonial of a girl from possibly Ukraine or Russia. Apparently Mr. B is still using the same style. My guess is that she experienced it when the virtual gatherings started. Which is not very long ago. “For some time in my life i stayed in the group who worshipped Chris Butler. I was very new in spirituality a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
By the way I forgot to mention this article by a loyal SoI memeber. He is bashing this site and the people who exposed the cult using their weaknesses. Like there is never anything shady about them. The level of arrogance and denial it takes to think they are white as snow is beyond my understanding.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Ian, I personally have not yet figured out what kind of a Cosmic Joke we are thrown into and what forces are behind it all. Whatever team has created this duality realm has now arranged for all of these “lies” to come up. Using people such as yourself. Nothing happens on this earth reality show by accident. Everything is scripted. You could have easily put your hurt under the rug and carry on
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
I meant my relationship with God was transformed into a Bipolar /Schizophrenic one due to the Yoyo teachings of the Guru. It was an analogy. As well as the fear based group dynamics. Like on one side they tell you God appreciates the smallest act and on the other side they tell you, you are not doing enough... I think a psychosis is easier to handle than a “mental” spiritual group.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Facet, the rabbit hole goes very deep and this forum is not really the place for me to go much deeper. I personally do not have any issues accepting that sometimes a person may have more wisdom than me. That they have gained more or different insights. That they may be more connected to the divine. I am not against genuine spiritual teachers. But I am against surrendering my mind and life com
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
In the Vedas, there is always talk about the Illusory energy of God: Maya. Unlike the Abrahamic religions, in the Vedic traditions there is no Satan (Devil). Maya is the ultimate trickster. She does not operate alone and is subservient to the “Supreme”. This material world is her playground and she is a rutless ruler. We are all constantly under the influences of the mind, senses, emotions....
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Corboy, I am sorry for anybody who endures this non sense. It makes you lose faith at times. Healing is a long journey but all these experiences teaches us to rebuild a more solid version of ourselves. This realm is very predatory in general. I believe some of us have a different soul quality. If you ever feel like it send me a PM. I have deeper theories on why we are targeted.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
About a year ago, I never thought that I would be on a cult education forum exposing a group that I could not let go of enotionally. However I was driven to enter the battle and stand up for those who are silently as well as those who are attracted to the process. It is my duty to share my personal journey so that others do not fall in the same holes. I was raised in a rather toxic family dyn
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Whirlwind, no need to handle me with velvet gloves. Let us put aside the humble language. I was in one of the most abusive, and fear based Krishna off shoots hell holes. So my skin is pretty tick. I will send this message to Nitai so that he can repsond himself. Even if this is a fact, it does not mean his experiences where all positive. Please do not call people “professional victims”. Thi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
I have been wondering who can protect those who are too blind to see they are being used an abused in the name of “service” to manipulative masters? My heart breaks when I think of all the people who are kept awake at night working for free in order to make the misleading masters rich. To offer him all the luxury in the world while they live in a garage sometimes. Or in my case 4 people at tim
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Hi Akpaz, You should reach out to Nitai Joseph maybe. He is very smart and grew up in the movement. He may be able to direct you. He also has youtube interviews. Krishna Consciousness is a lifestyle that is not for everybody. I joined an offshoot (more modern and less strict and fanatical) when I was an adult but cannot imagine being forced into it as a kid. There are people who do ve
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Actually my most mind blowing mystical experiences have always been outside of the group. What keeps people around is the potency of the mantras and the deities. They depend on him because they believe he is a conduit (middle man). In Krishna consciousnes there is what people refer to as the honey moon phase. At the beginning stage, the deity reveals himself in a very obvious way to attract t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Thank you very much Corboy. I appreciate your kind words. I have been watching many interviews, documentaries...on the so called “Hare Krishnas”. It is important to discuss why the process is so attractive and hard to give up at times. I have not often seen the mystical aspects of it being discussed. We will never truly be able to figure out how this reality functions. Who are the forces beh
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
I have spent a few months on this forum reading the Butler thread as well as contributing. I am done exposing the unhealthy side of SoI. I would like to share my personal story journey and I think many can relate. My story is not for the sceptics. So I kindly ask those who have not had similar experiences, to not dismiss ours. And please do not try to debunk them. I know I am not the only one
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
I have put all the necessary energy into this forum. Leaving the divine forces take control of the Wheel. Praying for all souls who live in limbo between bliss and fear. At least we did not stay silent.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Sri Krsnadasa Kaviraja, the author of Caitanya-caritamrta, says that all good qualities become manifest in the body of a Vaisnava and that only by the presence of these good qualities can one distinguish a Vaisnava form a non-Vaisnava. Krsnadasa Kaviraja lists the twenty-six good qualities of a Vaisnava: (1) He is very kind to everyone. (2) He does not make anyone his enemy. (3) He is tru
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
They have created a strange version of Vaishnavism. And Krishna is the Supreme Don Corleone. God is going to get you if you dare judging His only PURE son. The more surrendered you are, the more protection you will get from Krishna. Even if you are an abuser, just because you are externally sacrificing for the God Father version of Krishna, you become off limits. Basically spiritual life is
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
After a few months of studying this forum, I have mainly seen fingers pointed at Butler. First of all ABC started the Isckon movement and handed a loaded gun to a series of Western hippies. Created that rotten Iskcon empire and these are the offshoots. Second of all the early disciples of Butler are as responsible as him. They have enabled and fed his ego and tantrums. My excuse is that I w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Thank you Ian. You are a very noble soul to take so much time to try and help those who deal with SoI. You are doing an amazing job at it. I know that you only do it out of the goodness of your heart. I have a lot of healing to do and it is not jut related to them but my other life experiences. I have been in lockdown prison without any significant human contact for a year. And one of the pa
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
When I embarked on this useless battle after I was called to do it, I spoke to a friend who had served directly in HI for decades. A faithful disciple. I voiced my concerns. She was rather annoyed with me and said: “I can assure you that those who are onsite serving, are very happy”. I know another person who was banned for a few years just because she is not a doormat, a bit volatile and con
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
We can sit here and write 500 more pages. Look at it all from different angles. The righteous anger and exposure is going to go only so far. Everybody shoud put diplomacy and fear aside and talk to the leaders directly. Tell them how they feel and give constructive criticism. The lower than the straw in the street is how this whole situation was created. There may be many dysfunctions going
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Dawatcher it is important to also focus on the good events. I have often said it in my posts that for me it was not all black and white. It would be so much easier to let go if it was just bad. If I never cared about whom I considered my spiritual teacher. There is no way I can say that I never got anything out of it. I speak from a place of deep hurt and this is what this forum is allowing m
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Dawatcher you and I are on the same page. Yes the survival of the closest or close to the closest. So disgustingly materialistic. My daddy is a famous disciple. Even though I did Cocaine and have zero interest in spiritual life, Krishna rewarded me with a “serious” husband or wife. Oh darn, I thought this was a spiritual group not the British Royal family. Maybe it is the twighlight zone!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
Copied and pasted this from page 504. Is CB hated so much that people would make such things up? Are there some ex members who are so DEMONIC that would come up with such lies? Are we all too spiritually retarted to see the Guru’s perfect vision? Not so sure. Now we have to ask ourselves a question. What the actual hell are these chastisement methods? Does it really work? Is it spiritually eth
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
I think something that is really sad is how the time, energy and money of the devotees is wasted. All the money and efforts that was put into the Gabbard campaign. All it did was to create more disclosure about the SoI. The insanity of working around the Germaphobia when people serve the Guru directly. Like washing 50 towels a day. Not to speak of the health damages of getting so many shots i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
1 year ago
Truth wins
The theory of Jesus passing through India and being considered a Yogi is not something the SoI came up with. There are many books written on the “lost” years of Jesus. These subjects are extremely complicated once you turn the critical mind on and go very deep down the rabbit hole. I heard someone say recently that the “Truth” movement does not exist because noone really knows the Truth. A
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
Current Page: 10 of 11

This forum powered by Phorum.