Is there any one talking class action law suit? If so, please don't answer here. There are genetic groups of people who get reparation. Lots of Nazi's hid out in So America. Do we know how many people "volunteered" to build Shoil or peel potatoes in the kitchen. Or how many kingdom businesses paid so little the "employees" could get welfare and the Queen of C
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it is another story but my son and i ahve been reseaerching n Muslims. When I read.... " "It is not enough that I alone drink the cup the Lord is asking of me, but there must be a people who enter into the same commitment to drink this cup. It is time for each one of us to take responsibility for the Word of God over us. We have been given the perfect direction and provision in the
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here are the sermons that I believe > TheycalledmeJonah mentioned. > > > > Make of it what you will. My take is that the > people will suffer. Playing detective, yes, I think is is a "code" from the last supper messages. I have not read too much yet about algining with Catholic
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rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > See > > > Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe > group/leader. > > Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful > gful accountability. > > No tolerance for questions or critical > ical inquiry. > > No meaningful financial disclosure regarding > ding budge
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chaos wrote: > > QuoteYou need to realize that if you were > deceived, it was your own fault. That is a hard > thing to say, but for whatever reason, you ignored > the red flags, you knew that the Walk was strange > while you were in it. > > (Am offering this as an outsider. I got burned
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Too bad you did not get engagement. I looks liKe I will keeping you busy with my typo comments. You made a very valuable statement. I saw my old lady home care clients years ago do the same thing. Then I saw my dad follow every stinking one of the TV preaschers. He idolized h every word they said. He even set a timer to get to record everything he might miss over night. My father was di
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Chaos1952 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hesitate to call the whole thing a cult, I mean > there was a lot of great people in the WALK, and > for the most part, JRS had an incredible knowledge > of the bible. Comparing the WALK to the > churchianity as a whole, it was and probably still > isn't all that bad. You see, people tend
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And there is another thing. The very many children > produced by polygamist families often lead to > applications for welfare. > > That means that tax paying US citizens who do not > share this belief system are indirectly > subsidizing this lifestyle. This is exactly what they did in "
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been_there2 I feel a number of things in common with you. I was born in 1950 and member of Christian Tabernacle since around 1957. I appreciate reading youu loving words. JRS was home town boy. The Stevens family were good people. our groups was honestly as very loving group. A number of those family members went to CA. So our perspective of the beginings before things were horribly wron
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Chaos1952 Sorry I seem to be overloading the threads now that I am trying to get decades of garbage off my shoulders. Re the silver mine. I never went there. However, we were almost sent there. My late ex husband was very excited about it. I suppose we did not get sent there because my hubby was not know from being a productive worker ( trying to be nice.) I was an RN so they needed so
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Jan w, Lane I know this post is old and maybe you don;t what to persue the walk thing. I am just trying to reach out to find old timers who need some closure as well. I am Chritian Tabernacle girl. I was the youngest Nancy. Many of my older peers from our youth group headed west to So Gate, Cambell and the Valley in the early years: ;60's. My late sister kathy was one of them. Good f
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kj5fers I know this is an old post. Reaching out anyway. I would like to connect with old timers in particular. Not for gossip. We all need closure. I will guess you knew my late sister kathy who was married in So Gate in '69. She cared deeply for so many people. She room a boarded in JRS Blix neighborhood then with a family I am guessing you know. The church knew me by my birth nam
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I know this is an old post but I want to answer a few questions. Of course there were cult hunters! Way back in the late 70's I read crap about the walk that I had no idea where it came from except the cult hunters' cognative bias trying to get famous. Tho' there were signs and symptoms of not healthy power and control. Some of the things written were not accurate in the
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Walking wounded I just joined in this group. I want to connect with people I cared about. I'm an old timer. One of the Nancys from Christian Tabernacle. I read you were from the jrs family. So, we have do have some close ties. (I go by pen name on line.) So many are trying to heal. Those of us who had the pre-walk back ground have a different perspective to offer if we chose. I
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I can't help but chuckle inappropriately, I feel, when I read your words now that we are looking from the outside side in and not caught up in emotion. caos1952 you nail it about M being the Jezabel...she was a the filthy pot calling the kettle black as distraction from the the real truth. Accused everyone else while she/ built her kingdom. "There is a word from God, one that di
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WOW! I can "witness" to that word Bro! thank you You nail some excellent points I am trying to breathe to get my words out.. the courage to blurt out. my responce to your words "it was totally about control and had nothing to do with helping me gain a better understanding of the truth. Perhaps if I had understood the truth I would have left sooner." "Control"
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I know this is an old post but I am reaching out to you any in hope I can help by maybe giving you some missing puzlles pieces. I grew up in what I call "the mother church" before the Walk. JRS started his ministry in his fathers church where I grew up. I left years ago after the "damage" to my children born from '72 to '83. My late father in law was a kingdom l
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Great to touch base. Hopw you are doing well.
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Anyone have informaiton on Kingdom School in the '80's particulary in Fulerton? My 2 oldeset were there. My son got beatings and learning to swear. My kids ended up in foster care. My daughter a few months then was returned home. My son, David, for 7 years. Of course he lost track of dear friends. he thins of sme of them often. Any one interested in exploring the subject of out
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Chaos1952 I did see that you did find the other group some time ago I jsut got approved to join. But since this is here I want to address a few things from my perspective. in case someone else can beneift from waht I have to say. JRS was an alcoholic. I saw attempts to cover it up like they did other alcohol and drug issues in Anaheim. ( My late ex husband was one that was covered up as well
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thanks for heads up. Keeping my KIndle version today. I need it for my own / family's healing because "I fell for It"several time and for my research accuracy.
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thanks paleface for the book suggestion. ( Pleasae let me know if I am out of line.) After I left the walk I craved fellowship. So I joined churches of any denomination that was conveint and people seemed enough to be safe.. I went to church bueiness meetings and what they had to offer for fun. To avoid my verbose tendenies my point is I was shocked at how many church leaders had not read t
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Jon, does Grandma Bowzer or the name Shirley ring a bell? If so they baby sat me before I grew up in the walk. If so I baby sat you and your siblings one day way back when. I'd love to talk to you.
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I know this thread is 2 1/2 years old. ( I just got approved to join the group) Yikes this is disturbing! but, if true, ( and I think it is) this is a real eye opener as to who was wearing the pants since mid late 60's. paleface, I have read many of your other comments about the whole Nazi thing. We are on the same page re destructive pattern of behavior I think as I have been researchin
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Yes, I remember he did. I worked at the public libary as a student so i went and checked it out. JRS read a lot. I think that many things he read were presented as revalations. I don't know that age of most on this forum so some may not know this little tid bit of his history. BAck in the early 60's I remember him teeing how he was bullied. The old timers at Christian Tabernal
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We have been wondering how things wer going in Shilo. My 'reprobate mind" remembers the past all too well. In the 1960 Fairfield had a college for "dumb rich kids." It closed but they sold it to a group...the Mahrishis." Sine I am over taken with "bitteness" that a chunk of my children' inheritence from their great grand mother went in the funds to b
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What is in the cup? Kool aid! Sorry. I could not resist. The dvil made me type it? It is so easy to be able to see something different from the side lines. But when the people are primed with music and emotinal energy ..the adrynalen rush... ears and brains receive that message much differently.
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Hey larry bobo you said "Funny, I don't remember John teaching that the kingdom is a dictatorship, but rather a relationship. It was the lordship of Jesus Christ" Glad you said that you don't remember jrs saying somethings. At the time there were many things people said that I did not hear at all, either. I was devoute! I listened to tapes.I was on the front row. I've
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girls_turn_it_off I just joined and am very excited to meet and greet. So many wonderful people were in the Walk. Those loving folks did fill a love gap that I did not get from my own mother. I think that kinship was a bond that kept some many of us in when should have run. We may not have had a family to run to for a rational shoulder to help us sort out that our gutt instict was not the
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I'm so excited and anxious to be approved to join the group. I think I'm going to cry. I am some what afraid tha ti iwll use the srong words (Transfer my gual of bitternes, satanic transferance or seductive Jezabel or nepulim attack on you all!.. Heck no I won't...but you now what I mean .) I was researching for an upcoming novel on mind control...I "accidentlly" foun
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