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6 days ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi Everyone, Here are some links and resources of interest. 1). Cults - BLOG - Coercive Control Collective. "Nobody knowingly joins a Cult, so why are so many lives ruined by them? 2). "Terror, Love & Brainwashing: Attachments in Cults and Totalitarian Systems." Book by Alexander Stein. There are various videos by this author on cults. 3). "Se
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
8 days ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi Everyone, Does anyone know what the copyright laws are playing music in a public function? The Money & You Seminar plays a lot of music from different artists and genres during the 3 1/2 days. Some pieces of music are played in entirety. Infact two pieces of music are played on a loop i.e. over and over during the course of 4-5 hours. Pachabel Canon and The theme from Young
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
17 days ago
Wiser Aussie
To those people who sent me private messages thank you for your time and information. It's appreciated. Wiser Aussie
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26 days ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi Everyone, Here are two YouTube links: 1) "The Problem with Tony Robbins (Deep-Dive - Part 1)" 2) "The Problem with Tony Robbins (Deep-Dive - Part 2)" Both videos are by munecat. She has done a tremendous amount of research. Some light entertainment and humor thrown in the mix as well. An amazing job! It's eye opening, validating and confi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
27 days ago
Wiser Aussie
Some food for thought. One only has to google Notable Money and You Graduates and see the long list of names that this organisation is obviously proud. These people have success because they took Money and You. Some of these graduates also took est, Landmark Forum etc. Also dabbling with Clearing/Auditing and perhaps Scientology. Over the years some of these noted graduates have splashe
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
30 days ago
Wiser Aussie
Here is a link to a "BuzzFeed News Investigation" dated 22 November, 2019. Titled - "Tony Robbins Has Been Accused of Sexually Assaulting A High Schooler At A Summer Camp". Take note how SuperCamp handled this sexual assault case.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
4 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Here are some links: "The History of the Excellerated Business School for Entrepreneurs..." ********************** dccordova.com "A History of Excellerated - Dame DC Cordova" ********************** iHeart.com Podcast "Interview with Ashe about SuperCamp". Hope this helps someone.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
4 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Burklyn Business School has evolved into Excellerated Business School. Marshall Thurber was also a co-founder. I remember when I attended the Money and You Seminar they talked about SuperCamp a program similar to Money and You, but designed for teenagers. Some of these co-founders, instructors and presenters did Est Forum Landmark and as everyone knows they are based in some Scientology pr
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4 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Hello Anxiety, I've just come across your post and I'm about a decade late. Hopefully you found the answers you've been looking for. All your research is very accurate. Bobbi DePorter was a graduate of Excellerated Business Schools "Money and You" seminar. You more than likely came across information on this forum. Concerned Oz wrote an extensive history in the
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7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi Everyone, The Money and You Expose was titled, "Blinded by the Light" 1993 It was an ABC Four Corners Documentary and the reporter was Rev. Dr David Millikan. It featured the Boston Movement and Money and You. If anyone can locate the link it would be very helpful to others researching the group since the seminar is still running in Australia and overseas.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Your insights and wisdom are profound! Take care.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
At the end of the Money and You Seminar when you've had the "Breakthrough" or "Breakdown", you are told that in order to feel "Complete" to do the following: 1). Clearing/Auditing 2). Rebirthing 3). Bodywork Massage Once you enter this world of these so called therapies you may find yourself further in the deep rabbit hole of confusion. I highly r
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7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
How negligent of the LGAT! What a mess! What would you do different in hindsight?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
I am sorry you are struggling. At this time frame recovery is beginning. However with mental illness it's much more traumatic. I'm sorry you are going through such a difficult time. Did they ask you to fill in a Psychological and Mental Health Form prior to starting? This was the case in Money and You. It did puzzle me at the time. It was a red flag I overlooked. Studies h
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
This is the pattern when you've done a high pressure course with mind control techniques. Unfortunately relationships suffer. Its that arrogance to force your new views and beliefs onto those nearest and dearest. This is exactly what was done to us in the training. Its understandable that relationships break down. We have been broken down. Its been almost 3 decades since I left
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7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Some questions for Money and You Graduates: 1) Did your personality change after taking the seminar? Were you confused and didn't know where to turn? 2) Did your family and friends say, "You've changed!" Did your experience cause friction in your relationships? Did you divorce your spouse? 3) Was your time consumed with everything Money and You? 4) Did yo
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
This is the sad situation about being traumatized by the psychological techniques used by unqualified presenters of these LGATS. You lose yourself and to some extent your identity by these LGATS and that's precisely what happens. You end up not trusting your instincts. This is why these groups are so dangerous and damaging. From your sister's point of view, she's doing what sh
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
7 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Its' difficult when it's family. I've had to set boundaries and disengage from certain topics and people. Setting limits. There's plenty of information out there on how to deal with people with narcissistic traits. I know if we put ourselves first, do and allow what's comfortable for us, trust ourselves and our instincts, it will be the best protection for our well
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
8 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
The following link - "The Psychology of Cults - ABC Radio National" features Louise Samways on a Podcast speaking on the subject of how cults operate and the methods used. The second Podcast a former member of a personal development course speaks of her experience. Wiser Aussie
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
8 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
Looking for "Money and You" Graduates who had a negative experience. Not everyone had a "breakthrough" experience. How many of you still get triggered when you hear Pachabel Canon or any other piece of music played during the seminar? Look forward to hearing from you. Wiser Aussie
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
The Therapies to Fix the Breakdown. After the traumatic breakdown we were directed to various therapies to fix what they brokedown. Who doesn't feel "complete"? Many show of hands raised. Clearing, Rebirthing, Bodywork, Rolfing, Past Life Regression etc were promoted as the go to for repair and become complete. The most damaging belief promoted: We are the cre
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
... You're not the only ones! Looking to connect with ex-Money and You Graduates who didn't have a wonderful experience. Not to mention the aftermath. I had a traumatic experience in "Money and You" and would like to connect and support. Look forward to hearing from you. Wiser Aussie
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
8 weeks ago
Wiser Aussie
"You can't heal in the same environment you got sick." Quote by Erico Mesiano
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
2 months ago
Wiser Aussie
You can get the free download by searching: Dangerous Persuaders book pdf or www.louisesamways.com.au This is the exception to receiving something free. Its genuine. A donation is optional. Thank you for highlighting this. It helped me tremendously in understanding what happened to me in Money and You. In fact various groups are mentioned including Money and You, Hoffman Proc
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2 months ago
Wiser Aussie
The Presenters at the time said, "There's no such thing as a free lunch!" 18) Beware of the FREE Seminar/Course, FREE Book or FREE anything. You will pay for it dearly. Its the ultimate SUCK IN. Once they have your details and contact information they will hound you to do the paid course. Until you say yes. Learn to say, "NO". Block them. 19) At the en
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2 months ago
Wiser Aussie
I haven't been able to locate this video. If anyone can find the link to "Blinded by the Light" by the ABC Four Corners please add it to this post. The reporter was Rev. David Millikan. Greatly appreciated as it would help others. Wiser Aussie
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
2 months ago
Wiser Aussie
Hi Everyone, In October 1993 the ABC Fours Corners in Australia did an expose on the Boston Movement and the personal development course seminar Money and You. It closed down Money and You in Australia around 1994. However like all these kinds of groups they surfaced again. There's way too much money to be made and so they EMERGED again. Most people who've done Money and You
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2 months ago
Wiser Aussie
To Lars and Brad, Thank you so much for your courage and foresight in posting your videos and experiences many years ago. Not only have you helped people who have attended Landmark, but others who've done LGATs so very similar. You have helped me with further validating my experiences in Money and You. They too have their foundation and formula in Est/Forum and Scientology practic
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
2 months ago
Wiser Aussie
To Everyone who wrote about their experiences with Landmark, I want to thank you all for your courage and foresight in writing your posts many years ago. It is because of your documentation that you've helped so many people. It sad that some people are no longer here due to suicide. You have given them a voice, respect and some justice. I am so sorry for your loss. It is felt deepl
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3 months ago
Wiser Aussie
A great YouTube video illustrates perfectly what happened to us. All the mind control techniques, thought reform and trance induction used by Raja are shown in this eye opening video - "What is a Cult and How Does it Work?" by Margaret Singer
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