p2pnet YouTube copyright row Nov 14, 2006 An attempt by Landmark Education to use America's DMCA to find out who posted videos on GooTube is fast turning into a major international incident. Copyright infringement has become a "hot topic" as, "pirated video from TV, films and music videos has proliferated across the web," says The Los Angeles Times.
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I gotta agree with this, there are countless "Teen Bootcamps" running amok out there. Dr. Phil did a show about a troubled teen called "Rescuing Angela", and they sent her to some place, and bottom line she ended up in jail. Then you never hear about the kid again. It is a type of LGAT mentality---come to our place, do our program, "get real", confront, yell-cry
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I am not going to contribute any more to this thread, its too complex a discussion for that. I have NEVER said so-called "repressed memories" are forensically reliable! That is insane. No sane person would ever claim that. People can't remember the color of a truck from a hit and run yesterday. Did I mention Singer and the others? No, I am talking about the couple I mentione
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I can't get into this entire discussion, its just too complex. But the "recovered" memory thing, put out there by the FMSF people, is a Red Herring. Judges are not stupid, (usually), and they look beyond that. I went through all of this first hand. I was a witness in a case around this very issue, from many years ago. The judges do not rely merely on "memory" as t
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By the way, I am a serious Skeptic, and think this is a fairly balanced viewpoint, except there is not enough mention of criminality. What is missing in the skeptical community is that there are an enormous amount of people who sexually abuse children, and then lie about it. Child sexual abuse and child abuse are very common. Just look at the internet, the world is full of offenders. S
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I don't have the time to go into the complete argument of this. But here are a few points. First off, "supporting" someone, does not mean supporting a possible and likely delusion! As a matter of fact, a good therapist would respectfully examine the facts and "reality test" as the most parsimonious conclusion is likley not a global Satanic conspiracy, and something mo
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Well, first off its impossible to verfify what she is saying. It could be many different things. She could have been abused, and then the memories get distorted. It could be "false memories". (of course many abusers try to hide behind claiming their victims have "false memories" but there are a few cases in which false memories are created). But in almost all cases of standa
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LA Times ran the Reuters article. Pretty much every major news sources has run this article, tons of people have seen this now. What great PR for the video. It was on their front page.
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Yes Tony Robbins is constantly bragging about he "coached" Bill Clinton, or "met" with him, or whatever he did with him. Same with Gorbachev and Princess Di, etc Robbins PAID to meet with Gorbachev by offering him a free flight, and there are some comments out there he "met" with George Bush I. None of it is serious, just photo-ops and PR and name dropping.
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Earlier in this thread, we talked about how some of the text in this thread appeared to be some type of attempt at a "curse" on the "Judas" of Royal Way. All of these Guru's use that "curse" trick. Listen to Benny Hinn placing a CURSE against his critics, and claiming he has supernatural powers, the curse, and the claim to have "powers" is basicall
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Listen to Benny Hinn places a CURSE against his critics, and claiming he has supernatural powers. What is really scary is that huge amounts of people believe this con-artist's cheap theatrics. Hinn placing a curse on his opponents. 787kb "Under this anointing, everything I say, happens" 319kb
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Quoteajinajan Very interesting how the Reuters reporter was astute enough to make the connections and put this part in at the end: QuoteLandmark, which was founded in 1991, is a descendant of the 1970s motivational guru Werner Erhard's EST training seminars. Yeah, it seems he was working on the EFF article before, and then the Google video lawsuit put the article into play. You can be a
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Are there any more Swedish cult expert websites? If a person could find some cult expose websites in Sweden, perhaps one of their bilingual people would translate the doc as a project? Foreningen Radda Individeau Cult information agency in Sweden. Svandammsuagen 10 S-12634 Hagersten, Sweden Phone: 46 8 709 0077 (found another one, I think) Svenska Kyrkans Namnd For Mell
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Yes of course I agree it would be easier for someone to just seed it. But I think some folks just close the application once they get the whole file. In uTtorrent, once you get the entire file, and then close the application, sometimes it does not seed automatically the next time you open it. So double check that too. So I agree, whoever has the entire file, try to take some time and figure
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If someone has the entire file, they could "email" it to select persons. Through a PM on this site to a longer term poster, you could use an online service to send the file to and from an anonymous free email account, by using a free file-transfer service. Here is one way. Whoever has the file uploads it, and then sends the link to someone else, and they download it direct.
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We were just talking about you success yesterday in a thread about another sect getting complaints called "The Royal Way". So Jim and Judy of WindOfChanges, congrats! Not only did you stand up for telling the truth, you handled yourself with dignity, and you prevailed. Of course, several years of being attacked, sued, smeared, and worse, is a high price to pay. But it sounds like y
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I bet that if Landmark is not suing Google in France, and its someone else, then Landmark will issue a press release on Monday about it... but if they don't say anything... Maybe next week that info will come to light. Just not knowing something, makes you want to know it! Just like Landmark trying to "ban" that "forbidden video" makes everyone want to see it! Its
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The irony of this situation, is that if Royal Way simply adhered to the most basic ethical principles of financial transparency, then at least 50% of the argument would not even occur! Its very clear that because Royal Way absolutely refuses to adhere to the most basic ethical standards, then they should be avoided at all costs for that reason alone. A tax-exempt group that has operated for 27
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Antibigotry, I am not going to get into a personal war of words, as that is just a distraction. I was simply pointing out that getting someone to come down alone, onto the recruiters turf, is the oldest technique in the book. I happen to think, based on the posts in this thread, that those who are identifying themselves as Royal Way, are quite smooth operators, except when they are asked tough q
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I had the same thoughts, after the post by "Paprika". It was my opinion that the text in that post was probably composed by Michael, due to its structure. I have seen that type of thing before. You have a Guru, who has conditioned his flock to think that he is some type of Divine Being, and can influence reality. So when he says he "knows who they are", for someone who believ
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Quotestop rw I wouldn't be surprised if a media outlet jumped all over this story in the near future. Stay tuned.................................. If a person wanted to get some media going, they could spend a little while putting together some information about Royal Way. The complaints, secrecy, etc. Keep it factual. Also, list some of the more serious complaints as well being mad
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Folks can also file complaints with the BBB in the area against Royal Way. There is a national BBB charity index, but Royal Way would be local, at this point. BBB Complaints The Better Business Bureau serving LOS ANGELES, CA andSAN BERNARDINO, CA is: BBB of the Southland WWW: Email: info@labbb.org Phone: (909)825-72
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also, Landmark backed down from Rick Ross, partly I think, to avoid having to air their dirty laundry in public. Perhaps if a person/people feel Landmark damaged them, they could have a meeting with a contingency lawyer, and the lawyer could study the Rick Ross litigation, and see where Landmarks weaknesses are. Landmark would probably just pay out some $ to make it go away, to keep their dir
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Quotegrub I think that public education, not "think of the children"-style bans, are the best thing. Freedom of speech is a double edged sword, snail oil salespeople have the same rights as those who question them. If they don't then society becomes a tyranny of the majority. That's 100% true of course, Free Speech applies most to the speech we despise. On the other h
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"Grub" is doing a great job fighting that Landmarkian lunaticfanatic "Sm1969" on that Wiki article. If "Sm1969" uses the word REDACTED one more time... Read "Grubs" comments, there are some nice shots in there! Quote sm1969, don't you get tired of Already Always Listening? Why not Commit to the Possibility of Being? heh.) Pirate Bay link. Landm
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is carrying the story...the same Reuters one!
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Yes, it will be very interesting to see who is suing Google in France. It should be in the public record... Anyone speak french? Some french newspaper is going to find it out. Maybe it has something to do with whoever added the english subtitles? I read on Usenet that someone put the subtitles in from the closed-caption version. Maybe Landmark through a proxy is suing in France, to try to f
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It appears that who specifically is suing Google in France has not been made public yet...Hopefully that info will come out soon. Maybe the EFF will be able to find out. But I wonder if it is the French networks lawyers trying to cover their own butts? After all, the lawsuit is modest. But regardless, there is a connection between that lawsuit, and Landmarks actions in the USA, and it is g
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Google News is now up to 117 articles, from all over the world. Wait until the Saturday morning news cycle starts North America, and then globally.
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(this appears to be to original article that lead to the Reuter's article) Google Video Sued For Copyright Infringement by Wendy Davis, Friday, Nov 10, 2006 6:00 AM ET GOOGLE VIDEO IS FACING A copyright infringement lawsuit, the company revealed this week in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The lawsuit, filed in France, seeks $192,465 (150,000 Euros) i
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