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13 years ago
LLG
frogla, It is this year, I'm not sure if there was a month but they were pretty clear about it being 2011.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
Welcome RichBlessings, Thanks for sharing about Emily, I pray for her and the rest still in the group. She seems like such a nice girl and I hope she will be delivered from the deciet as well. If I can do anything to help you, please let me know.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
ReadtheBook; QuoteTo LLG: You said Timothy called people to him not the LORD for questions, now I take issue with this. If this was true I would AGREE to everything on this blog. However, One of the MAIN reasons that my husband and I have accepted the letters is because we have seen in NUMEROUS letters where people apparently ask Timothy a question and the LORD's response is always that
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
QuoteI think I understand your sentiments better based on your post. It sounds like you more have a problem with the doctrine of TCOG and because their doctrine is not agreeable and frankly strange to you, you equate this with a cult. Actually ReadtheBook, the reasons posted by Wendy (originally from me) are why I equate this group with a destructive cult. The reason is because of thier fruit
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13 years ago
LLG
Readthebook, I appreciate you sharing your story, it sounds as though you have been through a rough time and I can completely understand. I have to tell you, I found myself shaking after reading your post, you sound so much like me its actually scary. Also, I hope you didn't take offense to my telling you to be careful, I just know how this group can hurt people as it hurt me and my f
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13 years ago
LLG
Just so you know ReadtheBook, by the time I had been reading the letters for one month, I was 100% hooked in. It doesn't take long.... least it didn't for me. Be Careful, please.
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13 years ago
LLG
I saved and deleted my messages so should be good now, sorry bout that. :)
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
SelahSelah, I assume the reason for posting these scripture verses is for the benefit of those who might be reading it who also belong to the trumpet call of god. I applaud you for your efforts, anything that may help. I loved this one, it definitely spoke volumes: It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of s
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
It is very much a creeping thing, I can totally identify with that article. At the end of my involvement when the ultimatums were being made, and we were told to separate from our families, it was really just "the next step" to me, like the article claims, it didn't seem off the wall because I had already bought in with everything else. I wonder when and how it will happen, b
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
frogla, Take heart, I don't believe anything is impossible, especially with God on our side. I wish I could give you some definite answers, but I think that would be better something coming from God, not me. I know how you feel though, I have myself been through some very rough times in my own marriage, and yes there have been many a lonely moment. I can't say for sure that th
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13 years ago
LLG
frogla, the first thing that comes to mind is I did NOT want Trent to create the gracehead website @ all. ...before Timothy Rathbun trumpetcallofgod came into trent's life, he was a different person (i won't get into all of that now) but ppl were drawn to him and he had many friends who enjoyed his view on God. gracehead was popular amongst our crowd. when Timothy Rathbun trumpetc
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13 years ago
LLG
frogla, The first exposure I got to this cult was through a video on youtube. I watched the video and was intrigued, so I went to the site and began to read the letters. At first I wasn't 100% convinced but was curious ("what if this guy really is a prophet? that would be awesome.") I found that Timothy didn't have any personal information on the site and that intriqued
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
QuoteLLGI want Trent and everyone else in that cult to seek the Truth even if it hurts, to follow the Lord and escape the clutches of evil I just read this, this morning. It illustrates what I was trying to say before and is something Jesus said in Luke 11: 35; Make sure that the light you think you have is not actually darkness. I agree frogla, it is in God's hands and all we n
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13 years ago
LLG
frogla, Yes I agree, I have never wanted to slam anyone, and I hope it has been evident that I hold no ill feelings towards the members or leaders of the Trumpet Call of God. I want them to be free from the mind control, thats all. I don't like seeing them trapped there, for quite a while they were my friends, I even considered them family. I want Trent and everyone else in that cult t
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13 years ago
LLG
I agree too, Wendy and cultaware. I know the group members want me to read it, I read the first 5 or 6 pages (it is 196 pages long!) but it just seems like senseless slander to me. It also tries to say that Rick is against Christians and is trying to make people renounce thier faith, I can personally attest to the fact that that is not true. I am still very much a Christian, and never once did
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13 years ago
LLG
Hi philly, I have it, why do you want it? I can send it to you through private message if you want, do you know if I can attach files there? LLG
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13 years ago
LLG
Cults.Kill_Jesus.Saves, You have no idea how overjoyed i am to read your post!! Not that you had to go through it, but that you are out! If you've read this thread at all, you know I too am a survivor of this cult and so I completely sympathize with the pain you are going through, and with the confusion of being told to leave friends and family among other things. It sounds like yo
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13 years ago
LLG
Quotefroglathose are all great questions philly and answers llg. my dear friend once got an email, from a member of this group, and to us it looked similar to the letters with misspelled words. so we both thought that it was probably amy since we heard that she does the typing of those letters of god. is trent the second in command of this ship or is amy? i also heard that timmy boy ha
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13 years ago
LLG
philly, I have answered your questions below to the best of my ability: Hades = Hell, very interesting and would love to know more LLG. Very JW in that there is 'eternal sleep' rather than a hell. It is more that they believe once Jesus returns that those who are not following him will be completely destroyed. Right now they believe they are sleeping but will be raised to ‘et
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13 years ago
LLG
FreeYoMind, We were all told we needed to either leave the church altogether, or never attend another study with the group. It was an ultimatum, the member in that thread had decided to not leave church because it would reek havoc with his family and his wife. He said he still believed in the letters, but didn't want to leave the church because of what it would do in his family. You sa
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
5. SACRED SCIENCE. The group's perspective is absolutely true and completely adequate to explain EVERYTHING. The doctrine is not subject to amendments or question. ABSOLUTE conformity to the doctrine is required. The following is a conversation in Skype which took place in one of our studies in August, I removed the names to protect the privacy of those involved (except Timothy because I
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
Hi everyone, Sorry this took so long but I had a lot to put in here and so just going through the memory banks and making sure things are as accurate, as well as anonymous (though not sure I was all that successful) as possible took a while. This is a long post, but a pretty in depth look at “life on the inside”. I hope this will shed some light on what it is like and why your “trumpeters” thi
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
Philly, It comes down to mind control, there are many subtle suggestions that are planted in the "flock's" minds about man purposefully or not, decieving people by mis-translation and mis-interpretation in the Bible and other places. Once Timothy has you believing that the letters are the unadulterated word of God, if there is any kind of contradiction the letters will come out o
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
wendyjduncan, When I say I have re-discovered truth, I only am speaking of one of the doctrines and I have been working hard at figuring that ONE doctrine out for myself for nearly a month, believe me I know I still have a very long way to go. I basically feel what I have to do is start from scratch almost, I don't know what's up from down anymore and the only way I know how to
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13 years ago
LLG
Philly, I also read that passage a couple of times after I came out of this cult. It is very good I agree (makes me feel a bit ashamed I have to admit) I think though that the people in this group will see that backwards in alot of ways. They believe that the church is the one who has been decieved by heresy all these years, not themselves. In fact that very indoctrination has prevented me fr
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
I was in an internet cult group called Trumpet Call of God. The group is lead by a man who calls himself Timothy (his real name is Speed) Rathbun and he claims to be a prophet of God with over 600 letters from God and Christ. The group meets via skype 4 times a week and uses many internet venues (like facebook and youtube) for recruitment along with hitting the streets with printed materials.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
13 years ago
LLG
Sparky, There are alot of good resources on this site I completely agree. Rick Ross gave me these Warning signs in my intervention in fact, I simply added my own insights from this particular group (many of the insights were discussed during the intervention itself as well) I guess I should have probably mentioned that the ten signs were from Rick though and for that I appologize. I hope I d
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13 years ago
LLG
Hi jeffsjo, I am also right now struggling with the same thing I think you are driving at. I recently left a cult and want to have support from people who understand what its like (my family has been supportive so far but I think some are getting "bored" of the issues I'm still working through) but where I live there are no groups like this in my area. Really my only option I
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
13 years ago
LLG
I came across an article which describes some abuses against members which occur in destructive cults, I believe every one of them occur in this cult: SOME ABUSES OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS:- 1. ABUSE OF INDIVIDUALITY They adopt a "groupness" mentality. They are not permitted to think for themselves apart from the group and only accept what they are told. 2.
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