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14 years ago
Christa
QuoteMeadowThis comment was posted on Janaki's weblog on the contact page: Quote <SNIP> We had to chose something dear to give away, knowing that we will never see it back. People, competing for BK’s love, gave their computers, homes, wedding rings…. <SNIP> HOMES??? People give this crazy fraud-woman and her phony-translator husband their HOMES? The wedding rings and
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Here, let me google that for you.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Grateful, please contact Rick Ross immediately. I'm very sorry to hear that someone from Wright used Private Messages to say things they're too chickenshit to say publicly. Too bad no one told them about IP monitoring software. You have every right to post here, and if the Wrights (ironic name for them, isn't it?) don't like what you say, well, they can see what happene
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
Christa
Yes, yes, I see what everyone's saying about honest MBAs ;-) and fancy schools. I didn't make my points very well. Obviously, I'd prefer it if Stever wanted to make an honest living, and many people with his background do. (Really. They're just not the ones doing the perp walk on CNN.) So that was one of my points, even though it's none of my business. Another point
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteThe Anticult Hate to bring up Stever Robbins again, but he is far far worse, as he is trying to act naive. Oh, I don't think it's possible bring up Stever Robbins too much. But we've never talked about his most perplexing characteristic: his degrees from 2 of the best universities in the world, degrees that should enable him to earn real, serious money doing honest work
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Thanks, everyone. Stoic, your explanation was very helpful. I looked at the video again and think you're right. I'll add that there was something about that woman that seemed particularly submissive, but maybe that was one of the effects of the trance, or the very reason Jeffries picked her out. I've now watched all of the videos sparrow listed, as well as many Ross Jeffries vid
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteStoic <SNIP> I then watched this clip which I think is Jeffries with a better personal image, demonstrating his technique to Louis Theroux. This doesn't look at all staged to me and the induction is quite slick. I assume there is a post-hypnotic suggestion planted for the girl seems to follow the two men the way a lost duckling will follow any moving object. pick-up in action W
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
sparrow, I am really enjoying your comments and information. I am also very glad that you've raised the issue of these predatory "I can get you laid" guys. This area is booming -- I know because a very sensible, intelligent, educated, yet sadly hard-luck-with-the-ladies friend of mine bought a book about it. Thank God, the book was more an advertisement for why people need
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteThe Anticult But it is a horrendous error to simply claim NLP is a "scam", as that is almost meaningless. Maybe the content is dubious, but they are always running meta-level patterns at the same time. I'd certainly like to know more about "meta-level patterns. Dr. Google didn't have much to say, and I couldn't tell who was reliable, anyway.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Here's an excerpt from his site, a patient story. The woman who wrote it said that people can ask her if these healings, which in her case involved angels, are real. I couldn't find any contact info for her. Pearl's site lists some very high-powered Ne Wage endorsements. He's a Hay House author who's also in a new movie. What ever happened to research and journal arti
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteStoic Anticult is wrong to say that knowledge alone of these techniques will protect anyone. These techniques play on the very human desires for certainty in an uncertain world and none of us are, by nature of being human, ever immune to those desires. It is the wariness and suspicion keeping you away from people practising this stuff that is protective as it is not possible to keep up you
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteMeadow Someone sent me a copy of a teleconference that BK regularly holds with people who are in her certification program. Some interesting listening. <SNIP> I do have some close friends that are actually in the certification program. It is clear that even within the ranks, doubt has started to creep in, since some of them are feeding me information. They are actually af
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuotequackdaveThanks Carlos. That just reminded me of something: Steven Sashen, whose name keeps coming up on this forum, has yet another deal he's selling. He has an online book, Scriptwriting Secrets - Writing Your Million Dollar Story and claims to have created the industry-standard word processing software for film and television scriptwriters, called Scriptware. On top of that, he has c
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Carlos, I'm very glad you brought this issue up. I've actually been thinking about why it is that so many "pseudo-sprituals" like Tolle, Katie, and others are getting such massive play. It's like eating Cheez-whiz instead of Cheddar or Camembert. Sure, you can do it, but why would you? (Unless you want to eat crap petrochemicals instead of real food and weigh 400 pounds,
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14 years ago
Christa
Quotecorboy"Book him, Danno". (From Dragnet) Message to The Anticult: Your mailbox is full, homie. "Book him, Danno" is from Hawaii Five-O! Steve McGarrett said it to Dan Williams at the end of some of the shows. This is pretty much the only old television trivia fact I know.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
I'm really struck by Katie's extraordinary facility with tweet-speak, and net-speak in general. There are teen-agers who don't have the lingo down so well. This might be part of her overall skill with the manipulation of language; IDK. It's noteworthy, though. Even if she has assistants tweeting for her, the voice is thoroughly recognizable.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
This Ultimate Coach guy -- did anyone else notice he obtained a degree from the University of Santa Monica in 2001? Isn't that John-Roger's place? MSIA? I'm surprised. I'm not sure why.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Hi Kassy. I want to focus on an angle you don't seem to have considered. The metaphor of a worm on a fishhook appears ITT a few times. Anticult brought it up first, and it's really influenced my own thinking. You write of benefits you've derived from the work as if they're important, or even relevant. They are not. The benefits you may have derived from the Work a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Fascinating find, hm2x! I am truly intrigued by Stever's odd, jarring reponse. "Peak oil"? Did Stever get lost on his way to Al Gore's blog? 'Cause that might be a better place to stir up a rollicking discussion on earth's diminishing fossil fuels. And "long-term scary trends"? What would the vase of flowers on Katie's table have to say about th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
These 2 posts have been buried at the end of the Eckhart Tolle "advaita" thread. They deserve greater prominence. I hope others who know him or who have been to his events will add to our database. The point is not to bash Tolle, or anyone. The point is to get information into the public domain so that consumers can make wise decisions, and to provide raw data for people who wish t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
SeventhVeil, your ill-informed defense of citygirl's comments puzzles me. What you wrote indicates either that you have not read the relevant posts or that you are unfamiliar with the issues we're discussing. Far from being "not particularly helpful" the "back -and-forth" in this thread is a great example of the free speech and robust debate that are the foundat
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
Christa
Great catch, hm2x! I'd totally forgotten about this post. Katie trains armies of people to go out and replicate the damage she does. It's grotesque.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Comedy has been underused in the fight against cults, possibly because people leaving them don't see much to laugh about. Anonymous has wielded humor very effectively in its fight against Scientology.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
I could not possibly betray your trust, citygirl, because we do not have a relationship of trust. We do not have a relationship at all. I am a stranger who posts on a Web forum. The time I spent crafting thoughtful responses to your imploratory PMs was a gift, and you have expressed your gratitude for that gift with vitriolic dishonesty and personal attack. The people you associate with in yo
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
Christa
citygirl's actually an object lesson. Because of our private correspondence, I believe she is exactly who she says she is, a mother worried for her daughter. Her postings here and elsewhere indicate she has fallen for WI, hook, line, and sinker. So she's turned into a shill, probably as a defense. Her outcome could have been different if she'd actually using the resources th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
Christa
Thank you for this enlightening, heart-warming post. I am very glad you're here. The resources this board offers are phenomenal. This thread alone is the equivalent of a graduate seminar in NLP, mind control, and cultic manipulation. I also wish to invite lurkers who are breaking away from cults and lgats to post here. It can be very healing just to tell your story to people who unders
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteBestLifeWow, I love the diversity of perspective on this forum ...and I love that everyone here is questioning reality and I love the passion. From my perspective, I am not here to promote Byron Katie or The Work. All I can say is when I question the thoughts that make me unhappy and angry, it brings me to a place where I am kinder to myself and those around me. When I pray and meditate, I a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
QuoteBestLifeQuoteShe actually tells this poor woman that she shouldn't worry about war, because the FLOWERS ON THE TABLE are not worrying about war. That's right. The flowers. They're not worried. They have no brain. Be like the flowers. My rational mind tells me this is about accepting what is reality. When I accept reality, my mind is open & free to take appropriate prote
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
14 years ago
Christa
Quotefree@last Healing from trauma involves much more than lawsuits, police reports and revenge. In fact many, if not most trauma survivors can't or don't sue for a multitude of reasons. There are many ways to address and heal from trauma. I suggest you seek help from licensed therapists. Denial is not an effective healing method and blaming yourself, as BK encourages, is dangerous a
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