To find out if someone is a LICENSED psychologist you just have to go online. Type in ''psychology license verification' NY or Maine or Whichever state The info. pops right up Wasn't Philip Ramu a licensed psychologist? Am I remembering correctily. Psychotherapy with group member PHILP Ramu? Maybe I'm wrong. My neighbor is a psychologist and his name poppe
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Marvin I am going to clear my box. I did get a message from you but it was blank.empty.' Try again. Thanks.
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TRUE STORY I'm in my 20s and my friend had been co-erced by her partner to engage in a sex act that was off-beat. She was telling me that she was scared. She said to me...I'll paraphrase...something like...''For the first time in my life I think I've done something that God can't forgive..''. That's what she said. Then she asked me and said '&
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Marvin, You can send some PMs to SURFER. He's your age. He left the group the same time you did. You knew all the same people. Voila...instant reconnect. Best of all Marvin is the fact that SURFER is a THERAPIST. Any emotional wounds which I may have inflicted upon you can be easily healed by your old friend who is also a therapist. I would also love to talk to Surfer again. He post
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Marvin, I can see you are much different than most of the other posters on this site, You are a courageous man. I agree. That's very true. Calling yourself Marvin makes you courageous. Marvin I have an idea. Maybe you would have better control over the conversation if you could redirect it onto John Hove's Facebook account. If you offer to give people information by redirect
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Truthseeker, You are so right about the narcissism. People need to read up on it. These people are narcissists. What happened to your daughter and so many others has to stop. You are right about that man. Who gives up so easily if he's innocent. Why would a child lie? They are protecting each other...it's just so sick.
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Marvin, Neither of the choices that you offered me are acceptable. I pass on both. 1)You've a right to think what you want and have no need to apologize to me. 2) I've neither the need nor the desire to explain myself. If you're confused about my posts you'll have to rely upon your own obvious intellect to sort through them and find the deeper meaning. Have a good da
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Above are FOUR examples of ''outsiders'' accusing some of the groups founders of sex crimes . Also a claim about something that sounded to me like kidnapping. Gosh... No one from within the group has ever accused any of the founders of sex crimes against minors?? Wow. Do lower ranking members have access to computers and phones etc...???
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I think divorce court records are public info. Finding out about the Smestad man giving up custody of his 3 year old after a therapist came forth with proof of sexual abuse would be public info. Is that right?
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This is from Florida's sex offense registry. Apparently he was arrested out of state. Click Here to Track this Offender Designation: Sexual Offender Name: GEORGE M DELALIO Status: Released - Required to Register Department of Corrections #: Not Available Search the Dept of Corrections Website Date of Birth: 12/17/1952 Race : White Sex: Male Hair: Brown Eyes: Green Height: 6&#
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The FOIBLES OF ABBA Abba August 15, 1982 in Newsday: link: Well that link isn't working. Another poster has it on their post. It was a Jan 2010 post I think. Somewhere around that time.
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Just go to the Newsday Archives Buy Complete Document: Abstract Full Text Police Say 2 Men Raped Woman, 21, Aboard Boat Newsday - Long Island, N.Y. Author: By Michele Salcedo. STAFF WRITER Date: May 24, 1991 Start Page: 33 Section: NEWS Text Word Count: 449 Abstract (Document Summary) Charged with rape in the first degree are Donald E. Hicks, 22, o
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Here's part of a letter I found addressed to Richie Walsh back in 2009. The writer wants to confront him about something which was done to him when he was 20. He wrote... I want to tell you where I am coming from. In October of 1976 I was informed that I was to participate in a winter survival trip. I was just short of 21 years old, very naive, had never been on a camping trip and di
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I'm lonely and have a feeling of LOSS since having left the group. We would always play such fun games. There was a Jewish holiday and we dressed up in costumes one year. At coffee house we would put on PLAYS and there were BOARD games. What if my peers wanted to put on a play? How would they do it these days? What BOARD would they PLAY on? Could they coroborate and put on a WRI
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Here's some info. I got on how a MANIPULATOR will use COVERT AGGRESSION. =========================================================================== PLAYING THE VICTIM ROLE – This tactic involves portraying oneself as an innocent victim of circumstances or someone else's behavior in order to gain sympathy, evoke compassion and thereby get something from another. One thing that cov
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Anyone born prior to 1960 and having stayed in the cult which was originated by JACK HICKMAN and now led by GARY COONS, would remember the interrogation game. Let's see...it's the 1980s and many cult elders are concerned about being PROSecuted for sex crimes. What to do? Well the youth of that day(now the elders) are told that a great PERSecution may come and that we have to p
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Newsday article on Jack Hickman Newsday article on victim of gang rape bringing charges against the Hicks man. Rap Sheet on Delalio. A sex offender whose victim was a minor. Divorce court hearings about Pastor Smestad's son sexually molesting a 3 year old. my goodness
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Here's a fun one EXFOLLOWER sends this message to Marvin...a recently found good friend on this site EXFOLLOWERLS MESSAGE IS ''Quoteexfollowermarvin - good point! (but rather than comparing them to neo-nazis; i'd say its more like any number of religions, who are closed-minded, and 'know the truth'.'' soooo....... by reading the ABOVE M
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Here is a 4 year response to my assertion that ACTS OF SEXUAL PERVERSION HAPPEN IN THIS CULT DAMAGED sent me a MESSAGE Here's the MESSAGE that DAMAGED sent me in response to my story about SEX ABUSE DAMAGED posted ''I have to say I find this very hard to believe. I wonder what actual knowledge you can have of families other than your own. While some may have
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So my above post gives an example of a therapist who is observing TWO CONFLICTING MESSAGES BEING DELIVERED BY A SINGLE PERSON . The single person delivering the mixed message in the above post is mom.. But here's what I wonder.... I think.... What happens when a couple or a group of parents/elders work together to create this milieu of communication? Like what if little Susie just g
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HERE'S AN EXPLANATION I FOUND OF THE DOUBLE BIND PARENTING STYLE. we hypothesise that the mother of a schizophrenic will be simultaneously expressing at least two orders of message. These orders can be roughly characterised as (a) hostile or withdrawing behaviour that is aroused whenever the child approaches her, and (b) simulated loving or approaching behaviour which is aroused when th
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Damaged, The RESPONSIBILITY for how you are perceived by others is yours. I imagine that making others RESPONSIBLE for how you are PERCEIVED is unhealthy. Just my opinion. I imagine that if you are TRUTHFUL and just ''be who you are'' then the reaction that others have to you is their right... I have a right to my opinion. I have a right to express it.
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Damaged 13 you claim to have left the group on or about 1995 and you also claim you are still very close to your parents who never left the group. I'll quote you Damaged...Damaged wrote '' ..... While I find it absolutely disgusting everything I've found out about Jack Hickman, I don't believe that most of the people who are involved would
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1 - Newsday claims Jack Hickman had a sexual appetite for young boys and violated them. 2 - A Newsday article says the Heck boy was accused of taking part in gang rape 3 - The police dep't has a rap sheet on Delalio and his sex offense against a minor 4 - One of the Pastors sons gave up custody in court of his 3 year old after a therapist presented evidence that she'd been sex
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Now I'm old. But having been taught so well by my elders how to deceive I imagine that my peers (now elders themselves)...also learned the art of deception very well. I wonder if the youth now involved in this group are privy to these tidbits.
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This site entitled CULT EDUCATION really does offer so many tools for anyone and everyone who has had any dealings with a cult. I always remember HIDE AND SEEK ON THE BEACH. So it's the 80s and our leaders are afraid of being PROSecuted for violating the sexual boundaries of minors. What to do? Well...they start to preach about PERSecution. We're taught that we (minors) have to b
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Damaged I can't even begin to wonder how your daughter can heal from the fact that she was raped by her father when she was three. Knowing that he is still around other children must keep the wound wide open for her. I wonder if talking to others who were sexually abused by members of this cult would help her. Oops....I meant to address that post to Truthseeker....I got confused... one
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Here's an example of a ''mixed message'' Joe Shmoe says #1) ''I'm on this Board which is called mind control and abuse so that I can talk about mind control and abuse'' This same Joe Shmoe then says #2) ''oooohhhh talking about abuse is very negative and I'm hurt and wounded by all this talk. I want to heal from my abusive pas
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Damaged 13, Your post describes something which politicians refer to as a ''flip flop'''. It occurs over the years. An authority figure will change their pov(point of view) and appear weak. The public shakes their head in confusion and sometimes the politicians loses votes because of it. Soooo.... Then there is something which people have referr
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Here's what I believe about psychological abuse. An abuser who wants to mask their crimes will go out of their way to deceive people. They'll try to convince others that they believe something which they really don't believe. How confusing to young people. For example a cult member may try to deceive others into thinking that they disapprove of cult activities while in fa
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