QuoteCultconsciousness... I guess a turning point was the Solar Temple collective suicide that involved several French celebrities. This event made me realize that cults were not only fancy organisations with funnily dressed gurus, meditative music and followers dancing in a kind of trance, but that cults can also kill. ... Cults have destroyed alot of people's lives as well. Its not j
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(note: not all Asatru or Odinist are hate or extremests groups) A study by a Swiss expert of right wing extremist groups. article: Interesting qoute: GARDELL: There are really three positions: the militant racists, the nonracists and, in between, a third, "ethnic" position. ......... GARDELL: The racist position has grown tremendously fast in the last four or five years. T
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There has been alot of controversal and criticism & focus about new religions. In my honest opinion I think even many Traditional Religions (TR) can be damaging and maybe should also be red flag as cults ("cults" in the modern sense of the word). It seems anyone these days can start up a cult and there will be people that will follow them. I dont see why its consider only a moder
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It could be. There are alot of groups that are hard to tell they are cults or not unless you have been a memebr of that group to understand some of the hidden "secrets" within the group. [Although I strongli advise visiting groups. Alot of people end up being indoctrinated subconcously.)
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Wasnt there something on youtube about "a warning to Scientology" by hackers or something????
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I believe there are a number of Sufis that are now saying Gurdjiefs teachings are not related to authentic sufi teachings. "Oct 30, 1998 Re Mouravieff: Some Sufis claims that Gurdjieff's Work is a bastardization of Sufism. Some Buddhists claim that Gurdjieff borrowed many of his ideas from the Buddhist tradition, including Vajrayana. And Mouravieff claims that Gurdjie
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One of the biggest popular myths surrounding cults is that they someone how hold and kidnap people. It doesnt happen too often, its rare. Surprisingly its rather the opposit.
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I know Jim Jone's "The People's Temple" use to do charity work and have free soup kitchens for the poor. I know the Hare Krishna gives out free lunch or dinners to people on Sundays. I know Scientology gives out free personality tests. etc
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Quotemofasonok, sorry i broke the rules in was unintentional, i will try again .. Let me guess it was self promotional.
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Quotemofasonmy main point is i dont think u can judge the teachings of master Samael on the behievour of individuals who use them to abuse and take advantage of innocent people..... But these are some of Aun Weor's claims: "Kalki Avatar of the New Age" "the Red Regent of Mars" "Maitreya Buddha" "the Archangel Samael" "Angel of the Apocalyps
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Thank you Jack Oskar Larm. You are correct about those too.
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QuoteSearch4TomorrowI have been meaning to post this for awhile, but never got around to it. Earlier this year a group of Feminist Wicaans broke into a number of churches. Urinated on pews and bibles, and deficated on the Cross. Clearly this is a religious hate crime, but I notice ,many people dont really seem to care as it was done against Christians and the attitude is they deserve everyth
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Not well said. Its false insertions. A hate group is a hate group. It doesnt matter if they are the KKK or Nation of Islam etc. They are still hate groups and should all be condemed.
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I believe certain charismatic psychics can create a form of "cult of personality" around themselves. I can see how certain people can be dependent on fortunetellers (fearing something bad may happen to them if they dont listen to the advice ofthe fortune teller)
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Some of these yogis or yoga groups are extreamly cultish. Its when they tell you something like: "You must give up everything for your guru" The red lights in your head should be going off.
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There must be other sites where people can download these videos. I'm sure groups like scientology are trying to shut down any and all sites that are critical or exposes them.
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I'm just curious. How many of you were offer Free things from a cult or cultish group? Like free food, free meditation classses, free prayer sessions, free yoga lessons, free personality tests etc. Personally I think its a form of psychological baiting where it makes the receiver feel guilty or obligated somehow to return a favour to the group. Its a form of manipulation.
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QuotezeetsI am in North Carolina working for the summer. I met these two guys that own a concrete finishing company in Union County. They employ several men, and all of them say that thier bosses are "true Lights" in a hushed tone. They don't have much imformation to offer about them, other than ,"they stick to themselves and don't socialize with outsiders." I am tol
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Quotenccg_concern This group potentially being considerable as destructive group, by definition, depends on whether or not anyone is being exploited or victimized by their activities, and/or whether or not "undue influence" is being used. It is not a matter of whether or not they are actively recruiting. I would add that certain groups will try to fish you in slowly and manipulate y
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Its interesting to read the "Discussion" section on wikipedia there as well. To qoute page: "Smacksoftruth Yes, stop deleting and censoring information that doesn't suit what you wish was the truth. Did you know the man? No? i did ...have you met his children? NO? i did! did you meet his wife? NO? I DID! did you know Rabalu? NO? I did. How many World Congress did you att
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Gnostic Movement on wikipedia list of sects: The following is a list of Masters who started their own school: * Joaquín Amórtegui, VM Rabolu * Julio Caesar Medina Vizcaíno, alias Gargha Kuichines, Patriarch II * Jorge Eduardo Medina Precipice, alias Patriarch III * Luis Gustavo Morales Sierra, alias Kelium Zeus Induceus * Joab Morales Calderón, alias Samael Johab Batho
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Related topic From another site: # "Gnostics The Gnostics movement was founded by Samael Aun Veor, who claimed to be the "Avatar of the Age of Aquarius" and was an admirer of Lucifer, whom he called "Good Demon Christ", "Gnostic Sun" etc. According to former senior members, Gnostics teach "witchcraft: meditation, astral projections, telepat
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He has been brought up befor for those who arnt aware.
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QuoteKeir.... dont blatantly call any group a "cult" (in the modern sense of the word)..... As for myself I did mention "cult". In the Modern sense of the word. From a previous post.
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Quotemorco2006 Do you seriously consider the PA to be a cult? I think Kath already made her views clear. Quotemorco2006 ..... Airing your dirty laundry in public is never very nice, some things are best dealt with in private. Hidden agenda? It sounds like there are moltives for silencing Kath.
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Quotemorco2006.... The organisers of the PA have spoken out against and exposed charlatans in the Occult world who have tried to manipulate vulnerable individuals, both financially and emotionally. The PA are in no way a cult. "THE PA ARE IN NO WAY A CULT" I dont think the average person here on the board would know they are a cult or not. :roll: We shouldnt presume either way
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My suggestion to Kath is if you really want to deal with the group then either 1.) Go to the police and file a police report about being sexuallly attacked 2.)You need to find others who are willing testify about their own experiences within the group. If there are sufficent evidence the police will take action.
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QuoteGulab JamonOk...I've been biting my lip during this whole thread, but I just have to say, for the sake of argument... What's to stop someone who was NOT in a cult from wreaking vengeance on a spiritual or religious group by claiming that they are a cult? We have no idea if Kath was really in a cult or whether the other poster who claimed to know her was correct in his claim tha
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Quotezaflon ... Now I feel it's time to expose those within paganism and the occult who are sick and dangerous people to prevent another 'witch hunt' fuelled by their activities. Z. . . . It aint just about another witch hunt its also about the psychological damage these groups do to their "members". And how people's lives are destroyed. It definatly
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QuotezaflonQuotekathI still do some pagan stuff and most people involved are ok, it's just this particular group that's exceptionally shady. Love Kath Indeed, as a practising occultist I would back that up. In fact people who have a -real- interest in these matters should see it as a duty to expose those who are in it for their personal sexual gratification, such as this 'marti
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