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11 years ago
Keir
I am familar with this stuff for about 7 years (to make this short). I think the PUA community has become a exploitive sociopathic industry. No one is safe. Not your female friends. Not your sisters. Not your mother. Not even yourself, even straight people are being targetted (Not that I have anything against someones sexual orientation or anything).
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
You should also go to www.bullshido.net They deal alot with martial art frauds, quackery and touch abit on martial art related cults.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
11 years ago
Keir
QuotethistleHi All Keir you wrote Its rather a common myth that destructive organizations cannot do any good deeds. This doesnt mean we should automatically dismiss any criticism of these groups, dissenting voices or that it's impossible for them to have any destructive elements to them. ) brilliant point! absolutely profound! simple straightforward yet quintessential! it reminds
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
This is a good find notanantiGnostic! Great work. Typical tactic for them to supress information & critical discussion. And it once again validates my point on how these type of organizations supress dissenting opinions. From speaking to exmembers of other Weor based sects I found this to be a common tactic among them.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Your welcome Quetzal. I think you can also safely submit 'Testamonies' of ex members. As long as you can have a disclaimer that states something like: "these views or opinions dont neccesarily reflect those of the site owner and its up to the reader's discretion to believe in them or not." etc.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteQuetzalHi guys, We have already received several complains about defamation. It seems that Baron´s lawyers are pushing hard in order to stop our efforts to continue our job. As we are on a free host it seems quite difficult to keep the site open. As far as I know, they are claiming to the server owners, threating them with claims in order to force them to close our web otherwise they w
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
Quoteseekinglight.... Gnosis enabled me to break out of a life of ....... It should be stated that Aun Weor's notion of "Gnosis" has no direct linage to the historic Gnostics (a term I believe was coined by modern academics to give references to those historic religious sects). Quite often Aun Weor supporters make statments like "we Gnostics" "the Gnostic...."
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteseekinglightYou have made it very clear that, as Keir said, this thread is only for those ex-members who have something negative to express, and that therefore any perspective or experience which falls outside that category is not important or worth any consideration. .... At the same time pro Aun Weor sites and supporters block, drown out, dismiss dissenting opinions as not worthy of any c
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteEmma CInteresting about them having support from the government in the Czech Republic. Here in the UK they still have their charity status, although I have written letters to the charity commission and so have many other people I know. I know it may seem like a small gesture, but it was letters of complaint which lead to the withdrawal of the Edward Penney cult group's charity status, a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
At least its in the right direction.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteFree_955.... But if a person is mentally hurt in some way or another by an organization, they have the right to express how they feel so that they can reclaim peace. They don't want to be told that their feelings are "lies". Theres alot more than that. the deceptions, the families who have been split by these types of groups, lives destroyed, the years wasted away, financial
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Thanks notanantiGnostic I believe the root of the tree was rotten to begin with and all those other related splinter organizations inherited that rotteness.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Quoteseekinglight... I only wish that there was peace between people no matter what their beliefs are or what organisation they are or are not a part of. Of course Aun Weor was quite open about his polemics, propaganda, attacks and put downs against other spiritual paths/organizations and of those students who dont believe what he did. I find it odd that you would make such a statement but yet r
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
I beginning to believe some of the comments made against HWRD. Warning to Aspiring black Belts of Hwarnagdo By Bob Duggan A personal account by an ex student Bob Duggan Indentured Servant Contracts with Hwarangdo (read the criticism section) "For those who arnt aware f this from what I understand in HWRD theres a policy that says you are not permitted to study any
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Quoteseekinglight .. My reason for posting is simply to show anyone hearing about the gnostic movement for the first time, that not everyone has had the experiences you speak of, and I and many others that I personally know or knew, have only ever had a positive experience, regardless of whether they have left in the end or not. This is not a case of a single person who had bad experiences with
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Quoteseekinglight.. I would have been happy to discuss more about it, but from the responses I received – the intensive personal questioning and also assumptions made about my intentions, I am placed rather like an accused on a judgment bench, which is not a position I want to be in so I don’t wish to post again, at least not in response to an interrogation. I dont totally believe their intent
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Quotescaro It is possible that the teaching of AMORC being a 'black lodge' comes from either Krum-Heller or Reuben Swinburne Clymer of the FRC. I will take that as a possibility. From what I know the mentioning of AMORC by Aun Weor is in his book: "The Revolution of Beelzebub"
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
11 years ago
Keir
I'm just curious does anyone know of the conflict between the two organizations or individuals? I have heard of Aun Weor refering to Amorc as "a Black Lodge" (paraphrasing). Apparently Weor apparently had some beef with Amorc. (Although I see both Weor and Amorc as being cultish. I sorta wonder if they ever borrowed inductrination methods from one another.)
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteQuetzalQuotenotanantiGnostic msanchez contacted me some weeks ago in order to request some stuff from me to his website. I am just waiting for him to open his new site to collaborate as much as I can with him. I agree with you, I also strongly believe that it is necessary to create a English site which offers all that info that can be collected over the internet but it is only in Spanish
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
Quotemofason... i was more of the opinion dont judge the doctrine by the teachers that abuse it, .... Not if the doctrine itself was rotten from the beginning. Ever heard of that saying in the Bible about rotten trees bearing rotten fruits.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteQuetzalIIndeed, we have collected all the articles that were originally posted in Sos Gnosis. I wish we could have all the web resources available in English, maybe one day... Greets. Theres no reason why it cant be posted in its Spanish form as there is translation services such as Bable Fish translator on yahoo.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
QuotekagekiI am a little surprised to see absolutely no mention of these government programs on this site that has been talked about for years albeit usually in the "conspiracy" circles. . I have been aware of it for a number of years (Ive seen some interesting documentaries about it on tv). I think people were more focused with thier experiences with cults. Although it would
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
11 years ago
Keir
I know there is a couple of ex Mormon sites if you do a web search. Sorry I was only a Mormon for a brief tme but I had two friends who became Mormons and were pretty messed up later in life. Good luck
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
QuotenotanantiGnostic...Of course it is a little tricky to find to find these sites as there are also many Spanish speaking people promoting his work. They drown out any dissidents in their ranks and file.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
QuotemsanchezHey, I dunno if you speak spanish, but I'm actually trying to create a website against samael's doctrine. I was a member for 12yrs, I was a missionary and priest in this cult. I too can't find sos-gnosis.com I'm actually thinking in buying that domain and putting it back up, along with a comprehensive critique of samael's most influential books. I also want t
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
Keir
Everyone who hasnt read George Orwells 1984 should do so. There are some valuable lessons to learn from that book and the historic back ground of the book. Its quite common for cultish groups to redefine regular meanings of words and sentences. Qoute: "War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
QuotenotanantiGnosticI would like to give another quote from Secret Knowledge, Hidden Wisdom page 203 "Those who betray or reject a Master of the White Lodge will never awaken, even if they Practice Alchemy". It is very significant that this statement is made in the section of the book were people are being told to work for the Gnostic Movement, or the third Key, Sacrifice for Huma
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
QuoteSamaelI tried posting on both sites, on Gnosticweb my account was deleted without a reason then on Bezlebub's site was deleted after a few days of posting because my name was "in bad taste". ........ And they do not appreciate dissent. Its a Common tactic for cultish groups to silence its critics.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Keir
Theres stuff on wikipedia and the web on "Plastic shamans" or fake 'shaman' types out there. I have not heard of Yaqui Indians building sweat lodges (this alone I would find highly suspect). My gut feeling is that they were trying to cash in with the Carlos Castenada* theme by mentioning "Yaqui". They also sound like some of these new age shaman type of groups
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
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