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16 years ago
mxkitty
Some people care about the welfare of others. Others do not.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
32. Subud
I agree that mere ownership of certain books and materials does not indicate for certain that one is a Satanist. For instance, an individual who is merely doing research can have a plethora of "questionable" texts on the shelves. Doing research does not make one a Satanist. Just like a kid owning a Ouija board does not mean that that kid is a Satanist either. But do read closely. I d
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
33. Subud
I've recently discovered that some of the Subud members got involved with Satanism. There has been a Masonic/Satanic group in Sonoma for many decades. The core involves families who have lived in Sonoma for several generations, such as winery owners, bar owners, grocery store owners, real estate agents and local "traditional" church, business, and health professionals. There may be
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
Funny that Sharon Gans has a staffing agency. So does Robert Burton's Fellowship of friends! Sharons' former husband, Alex Horn, was Burton's "teacher" before Burton founded the Fellowship of Friends. I've never heard of Gans or Horn being racist, but I know they do discriminate against homosexuals. Rosie O'Donnell can attest to that. *** 'Reverse
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
35. Subud
Anne Haas runs a Subud group in Sonoma county. She is the former wife of Alex Horn, a notorious cult leader who taught Robert Burton and married Sharon Gans, another cult leader.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
36. Subud
Anne Haas runs a Subud group in Sonoma county. She is the former wife of Alex Horn, a notorious cult leader who taught Robert Burton and married Sharon Gans, another cult leader.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
Alex Horn did not leave San Francisco until 1978. It wasn't the 1960s. David Daniels may have affected Horn's group in San Francisco in the 1960s; perhaps he even "stole" some of Horn's followers. But he couldn't have taken over the whole group until 1978 or afterward.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
Members can sue them and / or their organization. Perhaps it is in the works!
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
The wonderful Dave Archer strikes again:
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
Robert Burton, before he established his "Fellowship of Friends" cult, was a member of Alex Horn and Anne Horn's (now Anne Haas) Gurdjieff cult during its inception circa 1965. Alex ousted Burton when he learned of his homosexuality. www.davearcher.com/alex.html
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
16 years ago
mxkitty
Working disciples to exhaustion is a major tactic in MANY cults in order to make the brain more susceptible to mind control and brainwashing. It's also used in the military.
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
17 years ago
mxkitty
Here's a link to a composite picture of Sharon Gans and Alex Horn with Rosie O'Donnell:
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
Here is a link to the photograph of Rosie O'Donnell, Sharon "Gans" and Alex Horn from the SF Chronicle that accompanied The Gurdjieff Foundation's article, Rosie, Sharon, Alex, Sharon, Robert and The Work :
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
I have NEVER posted anything about Sharon Gans or her family being involved with the US Supreme Court. For one thing, "Gans" isn't her real surname.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
With regards to possible government mind control experimentation, I'm not talking about Alex Horn and Sharons Gans' Gurdjieff group. I'm talking about Anne Haas' Gurdjieff/Subud group. Alex Horn and Sharon Gans aren't into Subud. Anne Haas is - she was a student of J.G. Bennett who was a staunch supporter and teacher of Subud for many years and also knew G.I. Gurdj
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
Here are some exerpts about Subud from Alex Constantine’s book, Virtual Government in a chapter section called “Cult Abuse of Children and Mind Control Programming”: “In 1966 Charles Buckey built a preschool in Manhattan Beach, California. Buckey was an engineer at Hughes Aircraft (a household crack of the period: “Hughes is the CIA”). “The McMartin mind control operation was reportedly the
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
I've meet Anne's son "Mo" (short for "Moses). He's got Anne's curly hair. He'd be in his mid-forties by now. He claims to have four college degrees but refuses to get a real job because of the antiestablishment rules he was taught. Anne's husband, Anthony's construction business employed Mo and many other cult members. Do you want me to list their
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships
17 years ago
mxkitty
I don't believe that Anne Bowen and Anne Haas are the same person. As for Anne Haas Dyson and Anne Haas (maiden name: Burridge), I don't believe they are the same person either. The only suspicious thing I noticed about those links is that the Seeds of Learning site lists Sonoma Valley High school. Anne Haas has two adopted children with the same birthday, so she passes them off as t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
mxkitty
There may be a connection between government mind control experiments and this cult. I have suspected so for years and I'm gathering more information for corroboration of this theory. One of the Sonoma cult's members told me (when he was very drunk and probably should have kept his mouth shut) that The Group is connected to Bohemian Grove, which is just as creepy.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
Yes, Anne Burridge and Anne Haas are the same person. Burridge is her original surname. Her surname changed to "Horn" when married to Alex Horn, and then to "Haas" when she married Anthony Haas. I have heard that Anne Haas has retired from leading classes. Jim Shere, a licensed marriage counselor and therapist gives secret, private classes in his office on the outskirts of
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
Allegedly, Alex Horn traveled to England where he met his wife, Anne Burridge who allegedly was studying with J. G. Bennett himself or with one of his study groups in the 1950s. Bennett was into Subud. Subud, a movement founded by the late Bapak Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo (Bapak for short), first reached the West in 1956. We can thusly assume that Anne was into Subud as well. According to
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
17 years ago
mxkitty
Thank you for your feedback, banters, ideas, and interesting debate. Happily my friend is no longer attending the RS church and has gotten into Irish dancing instead. To address your point about the church attendee you know that ended up disillusioned, I say that s/he could definitely find a more fun and productive way to spend a Sunday morning!
Forum: Destructive Churches
17 years ago
mxkitty
I reiterate: believing in something that is not proven to be safe and effective is potentially harmful. Equal care should be given to the things that we put into our minds as those which we put into our bodies. If the RS Church can provide useful and helpful empirical, measureable evidence based on viable data from their studies of the placebo effect, and if their experiments were conducted in
Forum: Destructive Churches
17 years ago
mxkitty
As I have worked with clinical trials, I am very aware of the placebo effect. There is DOCUMENTED evidence that it exists and that it has an effect. That is why valid tests are double blind. I meant "mental masturbation" as a metaphor. I was not commenting on the traditional meaning of masturbation (self-stimulation of the pudendae) at all. Yes, believing in things makes people fe
Forum: Destructive Churches
17 years ago
mxkitty
The problem with the RS church's ideas about positive thinking is that such strategies are not based on any empirical evidence whatsoever. There is NO scientific basis that "positive thought" does ANYTHING. What is "positive thought" anyway. It cannot even be defined. Anything that cannot be defined in real, concrete terms is worthless at best. It's just mental mastu
Forum: Destructive Churches
17 years ago
mxkitty
Hello, I have a friend who has begun attending meetings at the Church of Religious Science. I warned her to do her research on the group to ensure it isn't a cult, but she didn't bother checking, only offered me assurance that it wasn't and THEN invited me to their upcoming picnic! They are trying to get her to recruit her friends already! How do I get her to open her eyes? H
Forum: Destructive Churches
18 years ago
mxkitty
Read some of the biographies on Phoenix's life, such as "Lost in Hollywood." I am amazed that for as down-to-earth and heathy-minded as his parents have been portrayed in the media, nothing was mentioned about them ever encouraging their children to get into therapy for their cult experiences.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
18 years ago
mxkitty
This article is a SCREAM! It rips on Alex Horn's former Sonoma and San Francisco Gurdjieff teachings and various students and describes how although over 35 years have passed, many ex-members have sadly drifted into insanity and/or remain in denial of the damage that cult has caused them and their children. www.davearcher.com/magus.html
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
18 years ago
mxkitty
The web site for this organization, the Human Awareness Institute is www.hai.org. It is based in Foster City, California. I've seen ads for their free introductory workshops advertised in the Bohemian, a free weekly paper distributed in the North San Francisco Bay Area. There are MANY cults in the San Francisco Bay area, so HAI could be connected to one or more of them, or it could be
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
mxkitty
Anne Haas should be sued for abuse. If anyone would like to join in a class action suit against her, please contact me.
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