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2 months ago
VKocsis
These questions are just for adults? Or are you also looking at children who were taken in and/or born in?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
2 months ago
VKocsis
I name that sermon John Miller preached at Whitestone on January 20, 2019, “The Crying Game” with his psychotic weeping and love bombing attempts. Their language is easily decoded when you peel back the onion layers. It will also reek just like onions and the eyes will cry from the burn of the bullshyt. Their method of recruitment has always been linked to California. That’s where my mom was recr
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
3 months ago
VKocsis
The truth is that the evangelical industrial complex is getting turned on its head, and The Walk is a part of this movement. Those who started it have abused children and vulnerable adults with fear, mind dissection, harsh punishment and extortion. They harbor pedophiles. They know what they have done. There’s zero defense which stands. There’s no doctrine in the world which can defend the deeds
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
6 months ago
VKocsis
Ella I remember that as well, the teachings that children were born with beast nature’s and the spanning and smothering of the babies. Horrific to put parents and children in such sick and abusive environments. I’m sorry you had to experience this. ella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was in the move in the 70's. (headwaters ranch > in bc) I&
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
6 months ago
VKocsis
Wrestler, are you still in? Can you explain why Sam Fife preached that children had a beast nature, why we were put through exorcisms, beaten, pedophiles shuffled off to other farms and none of the Father Ministry or Elders will explain it. I’m just wondering how they believe there’s a pathway to heaven while doing the worst to the least among them? Wrestler Wrote: -----------------------
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups
6 months ago
VKocsis
Hey there. I grew up in The Move. I talk very openly about my experience. How old were you when you went in? What farm/s were you on? What years? I was 3-14 / 73-83 first at Ware, MA then Delta Junction, AK Thecolorloft Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I recently found this group and as a former > ‘move-ite’ I am interested in connecting and >
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 months ago
VKocsis
Hi kmack. I hope this reaches you. I was at Ware from 73-77. I really like to connect and ask some questions about that farm particularly if you’re able to answer them. Are you related to Donald McClain or Freda and Wasal by chance? Thanks!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
6 months ago
VKocsis
I wanted to add a thread in here for SFMOG survivors. I was taken in at 3 years of age in 1973 and was there into the mid 80’s. I was first at the Mt. Bether compound in Ware, MA for four years and then the Dry Creek, Living Word Ministry compound in Delta Junction, AK for seven years. I was consistently abused in a myriad of ways and consistently witnessed the abuse of others growing up. The
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
6 months ago
VKocsis
Hey pink. I grew up in Sam Fife’s Move of God cult in the 70’s and 80’s. I was taken in at 3 years old until my mid teens. I suffered a lot of abuse. I wrote a book about it called “Cult Child”. Where I have found the most support online is at places like this where I can meet and speak with others like me who understand the horror and the healing journey. Also, if you are on facebook, there is a
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
6 months ago
VKocsis
Sounds like a “re-branding” like how they did with Bill Grier merging The Walk and The Move. They dissect, re-register themselves as new church entities. It helps them to make it harder to sue them. But, snail trails are easily followed. that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My apologies if someone has already posted this > link. >
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
6 months ago
VKocsis
Hi there. I don’t know if we have already connected. I grew up at Ware, MA and then at Dry Creek, Delta Junction, AK. I also have had a long recovery period. If you want to talk, my email is: Vennie.Kocsis@gmail.com
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
9 months ago
VKocsis
Hi Lone. Sorry for the reply delay. I wasn’t born during those beginning times, but “cheep” is laying out some of the groundwork. They all traded members between one another; shared doctrines; used the same type of abuses and merged a lot of their members. As I understand it, Grier was a key connection in that collective. It would be great for the day any of them told us younger generations th
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
10 months ago
VKocsis
Hello all. I’ve spent the better part of the day reading here and understand that I’ve found the root of the cult I grew up in. Sam Fife started The Move aka The Body aka The Move Of God in the 1960’s. At that time Bill Grier was part of the Walk. Enter also I.S.O.T, with Marie at the helm and there is a triad web whose fingers spread a long way over decades. I grew up first on a compo
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