Hi damaged, You are very very welciome. By all means, please take in all that you can get out of these forums. There will be times when you've had enough and that's perfectly fine and normal. Make the most of these phases as they happen. You're welcome as muich as you wish to drop in. John
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

Hi Damaged, If you can, stay in regular contact with her even though you aren't going to get married. If you want to you can be there for her when she finally falls properly on her back side, but also to provide a tangible link to her "before Landmark" self by which she can start to recover to. For what it is worth, good on you for not succumbing to pressure over attending L
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families

(Archived copy per recent removal from the Cult Awareness and Information Centre) The Lord works in mysterious ways Mystery revealed about religious groups on campuses nationwide; your campus is their mecca. By Rachel Alterman Uncle Sam wants you. He wants you to fight in his army to save your country. Witness Lee wants you too. He wants you to fight in his army to save your soul. Unc
Forum: Destructive Churches

Walter Berlin seems to be trying to expunge bad news of himself off the internet. He's going to be pretty busy considering there are a wealth of very credible newspaper articles about him. There's also a damning 60 Minutes report. Walter Bellin is credited with creating the Turning Point course. You can read plenty about this course here: In particular, he considers this minor
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence

QuotePaul_peter I don't think so. And as for the addictive experience you are quoting, which online shopping portal does not seen addictive? I bet the ones that don't, actually have zero consumer retention value. What say?! I say you stay on topic and make a valid point. John
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

You mean the one linked here? John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

An interesting scam has been operating in Australia in recent years, with "how to be a property developer" wealth spruikers who just happen to be Scientologists working together to relieve investors of their money at every opportunity. See this Today Tonight story on Carly Crutchfield to get the basics. They tout themselves as having a wealth of experience, but they baulk when a &qu
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Don't have current info on the Brisbane office. Wouldn't be surprised if their hot air escaped faster than they could pump it in ... hence the demise. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Who needs good design when you are "Landmark awesome" in your own mind? John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I'm thinking that one of the reasons for the exorbitant "full pricing" is to help with the enticement of new individuals to join Amyway in order to buy at cheaper rates. This then gives them an effective part of their business model ... committed customers. John
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

.. and to big honkin' spotlights that can be used to illuminate the truth of what is going on. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

But first ... a minor matter that the galactic dictator Xenu wants to deal with regarding the copying of certain Scientology ideas by Werner Erhard. Somebody is in big trouble ... but only if Xenu exists. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Did I mention a certain endorsement? :-) CAIC is fully behind this, giving it as much support as possible. John PS. This is also an excellent reason to fly over and visit .... while the US dollar is still worth something! (ducking!)
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Hi everyone, Worth knowing about is an upcoming conference in Brisbane, Australia, put on by Cult Information and Family Support QLD. This conference is for both mental health professionals as well as those (including family members) who are recovering from their cultic involvement. Topics Covered in Lectures or Workshops: • Psychological manipulation, mind control, and other dynamics
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

For some reason all I can think of in relation to Werner is the "Jedi mind-trick". And it's not quite working for him. Weird. At least I'll snap out of it soon. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

It's just that the auction experience can become somewhat addictive, that's all. Unfortunately, due to the prohibitive amount of money that was paid for PayPal, the company has needed to dollar and dime everything they can get out of the business at the expense of those who were the "power users" and had successful symbiotic businesses. It's also the reason why Ebay c
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Why do you need motivational tapes to be able to sell soap and washing powder??? Because your uplines (the more intelligent ones) have already worked out that Amway just isn't viable. The production and sale of the motivational tapes is their way of making a profit out of the otherwise failed business they have invested in. Hence the hype to continually purchase the latest tape. John
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Hi everyone, Worth knowing about is an upcoming conference in Brisbane, Australia, put on by Cult Information and Family Support QLD. This conference is for both mental health professionals as well as those (including family members) who are recovering from their cultic involvement. Topics Covered in Lectures or Workshops: • Psychological manipulation, mind control, and other dynamics of
Forum: Recovery from Destructive Cults and Groups

So that's the sound that Art will be making. Boing, boing, boing, boing .... John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Didn't Werner have some outstanding tax issue that prevented him from returning to the country? Anyway, couldn't help myself but look up the registration of the neuroleadership.org domain name in case it was an LGAT front group such as the Hunger Project. I think there is a 60 Mins story out there someone on The Hunger Project too. The domain is registered to a "Lisa Rock&qu
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Hmmm. Must have been a glitch. Try again and see how you go. The good news is that the younger generation have a natural tendency to do a Google search for something they are interested in. Hopefully the availability of the information will assist others in the future. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Did I mention "soon"? To view the programme, click here. Very well done report, too. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

It will be available. Soon. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

But what would an est-zombie say to him? John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Life was good for Werner Erhard until his family and some staff members were interviewed by 60 Minutes. The story that went to air subsequently blew away the facade for good, exposing the truth for all to see. Werner Erhard was anything but the success he presented himself to be. You might say that the impact was devastating. Better still, Erhard could tell that the impact of the upcoming s
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Even though I am logged in, when I click on "private messages" I get another request to log in again. John
Forum: Tech support for this board

That's an interesting observation there. I wonder if they are having difficulties with younger people not being as prepared to commit themselves to as great a depth with this? John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

That must have been quick. John
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

And to top it off .... "THE owner of a company behind a self-help course attended by a woman who jumped naked to her death just days later admitted yesterday that its procedures and staff were "inadequate" -- and remain so, more than 3½ years after her death." Both clueless and careless ... which is right up there with the reality-disconnect and lack of critical thinking
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Hi Bluedevil, and welcome to the forum. I haven't been to one of the courses, but I expect that it will have the same characteristics as other Large Group Awareness Training organisations. The exception being that it's wrapped up in a New Age presentation, which is in itself a disconnect from reality. Essentially, a LGAT which targets the new age market segment. As these events
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"