kbyrne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Anyone got any good stories from the mattress > > rooms at Shiloh? > > > My very good friend used to spend nights with her > then boyfriend in the mattress room. Caught them > coming out of ther
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Invisible Wrote: > For some posting, I think - the complaint is not > as much about the sacrifices made - it is more > about the jolting reality - and the years it took > to sort out and realize what had been done to > them, It is about the sacrifices that other's are > making and investing themselves and their years in > TLW - who are living their lives hav
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A scene from my video series--'The Horrible Street Evangelist': "Excuse me sir...have you read 'The Line is Drawn?' No? Would you like my copy? I don't need it anymore. Hey--you don't have to be so rude. A simple 'no' would suffice. YOU HAVE NO COVERING, BTW!!"
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NickleandDimed Wrote: > I gave a This Week to my dad (a church going > Christian). He said the guy who wrote this is a > jackass. Ha--that's one way of putting it.
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As an aside... I recall trying to lure my older brother into the fellowship in the late 70's, providing him a 'This Week'--thinking he would be overwhelmed by the anointing that saturated the pages, and demand to be part of the movement. He read it in front me (fast reader), handed it back, and simply said it was "hypnotic." That was that. He was clearly annoyed that I
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filthy apron Wrote: > Better move close to your children > because even after all the time and big money you > put into it we really don't give a shit! Good > luck to ya! A bit lengthy, but otherwise it would make a great sermon title on one of those DIY church signs :)
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain - I too did not get my personal > finances in order until after leaving TLWF and in > my 40's. Since I was involved in leadership, I > had to submit a regular report of my personal > finances - something the rank and file did not > have to do. Lets just say my credit score went
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Larry: <The fact that there is so much suffering in TLWF should be a red flag that something is not right. We can make corrections and eliminate that pain, which most of us did by leaving.> My uncle was a famous banking lawyer, and yet I didn't learn the basics of personal finance until my mid-40's...coincidentally, just after leaving TLWF. Corrections that made my life signif
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SouthGate Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > > Enough of the bruised reed crap. Time to Lift > Me > > Up. > > :) > > > Ah yes....your miserable standard again. I found > the bruised reed comments edifyin
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Nice
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kbyrne Wrote: > Martha claims, 'My husband has total control of the > church and its funds, and total access to all > church finances. He is, in essence, the church > himself.'" > > Gee, I wish I would have known this when I working > year after year in Shiloh for $80 a month. I might > have asked for a raise! Wow--$80/month is not enough to mo
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Just 'voluntary' labor alone I average 2-3 days per month over 20 years. And we were consistent tithers...so the above figure is actually a low estimate. Damn it--I would be ready to march if my knees weren't giving me trouble!
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NickleandDimed Wrote: > I knew a couple who left with nothing. In their > 40's. He went back to college for a degree. She > took a job. Supported them on a shoe string. They > were use to that. Took them a while. To find > financial stability. Not everyone was able to do > that. This could be a description of my wife and I...except the going back to college part.
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kBOY Wrote: > "Passover — The Authority To Judge > Spirits" > By Silas Esteves April 26th, 2017 > > > 4/passover-authority-judge-spirits/ > > "Today we were able to discern some of the spirits > that torment us; spirits that put us down, cause > confusion in communication, and promote deception > and fear." > > (Is T
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rond Wrote: > Further, I wonder if anyone in TLW is waiting for > the reincarnation of Marilyn or JRS? I'm sure some of them are, rond. Meanwhile, I'm awaiting the return of Martha, donning one of her expensive ball gowns...preferably blue. :)
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Devil with the Blue Dress." It's laughable. A > thousand dedicated members interceding. Kill the > Nephilim. While Martha was at Arthur Murray dance > studio. Taking ballroom lessons. Yes--the reality is a bit different than what we were fed. Oh my.
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Invisible Wrote: > I was just present one of the days for the court > proceedings and the only thing I remember is > Martha's attorney requesting as part of the > settlement certain monies for expensive ball > gowns. Didn't Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels write a song about the 'Devil With An Expensive Ball Gown On'? Disregard this comment. I�
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Good detective work, CA. I can only imagine the > Lord spoke audibly to John Robert Stevens, "Pick > Marvin Michelson. He's a genius." Ha--I think it might have went down like this: The Lord appears to John late at night. He says this: "Hire Marvin Mitchelson or I will kill you."
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Inspiring
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I recall that divorce attorney coming around the > LW building during JRS's divorce in the late 70's. > I think his name was Marvin Michelson. Yes, Marvin Mitchelson--an American celebrity lawyer. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia about him: "During his heyday Mitchelson owned a 38
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rond Wrote: > Wouldn't it have been better just to divorce > honestly? Part of the reason I left TLW was to > escape all the twisting of words, though I really > believe there are still good, decent people in > TLW. Yes
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TheJewel Wrote: > Get Gary to hold a town meeting. Yes--he could start if off this way: 'Sit Down, Shut Up and Listen.'
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe we could organize a rally with signs and > stand outside the CLW church in North Hills. We > could demand transparency on where the assets > went. > > Then again, maybe not. : ) Ha--yeah, maybe not. I'll just assume it went into Marilyn Trust Fund and was used for Kingdom pur
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain, > Those instant pastors and their home groups Lily mentioned when > the LW was growing had to tithe to John. Money > came in during those years. BTW, Even today it would be interesting to note where the proceeds of the sale of certain churches would go--into what accounts, controlled
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Meanwhile, until the people here decide whether they want periodic updates regarding page views, I'll take this opportunity to share other stats that I have been holding back until now. How about this: 99.6% of the people that have written in this forum have refused to have their heart circumcised. Two people, who wish to remain anonymous, had the procedure done as a result of a surgery m
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NickkleandDimed: <Changeagain, do you really think that post from Gary's daughter was authentic?> Yes, I do. I wish I could locate the posts now, and share them (through PM). Of course, she had the basic facts correct, especially about her Mom. But it went far beyond that. I sensed that the person who attacked her, did so because she/he knew that she was, in fact, who she said sh
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SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just wanted to clarify my last statement. I've > cast the 1st stone and many other stones my whole > life. I've used my miserable yardstick on so many > others all the while a yardstick couldn't measure > my own shortcomings. Yeah, I think it's a common malady. Lately, I'
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kbyrne Wrote: > When Gary and Marilyn became an item, that pretty > much sealed the deal for me. That just seemed > wrong. And I couldn't understand what Donna > Hargrave (and his little girl) had done to deserve > that. It just did not seem right. My recollection of Donna was that she was sweet, fun and good-natured. She didn't use her 'position' (pas
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I believe that the assumption that we need > periodic updates regarding the number of page > views to date is incorrect. Just saying. sorry about that Initially my intent was to poke fun at this kind of obsession...but then it took a life of its own.
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301,384 page views to date...
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