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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
SGI Member's Creed This is my gohonzon. There are many like it, but this one is mine. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me my gohonzon is useless. Without my gohonzon, I am useless. I must show actual proof. I must chant harder than the enemy who is trying to defeat me. I must be victorious before he is. I will. My organization and I
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteTaitenAndProud The last time (I think) that I heard Matilda Buck speak, she offended me with her stupidity. She was telling this cockamamie story about how a boy saw a butterfly struggling to get out of its chrysalis (she probably said "cocoon" - what a dumbass - that's moths), so he helped it by gently opening the chrysalis. The butterfly flew out, then dropped dead. His f
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteTaitenAndProud I remember when I was a YWD at first. I was the most active member of my group, which was named for a woman I never saw. Ever. I never understood why my group should be named after someone who never bothered to show up! Finally, after many months, I got its name changed to mine (that was the "rhythm" back then, that the group leader's name be affixed to the
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteTaitenAndProudQuoteThere is no retirement age in the gakkai cult org., "the benefits of faith include perennial youth and eternal life." Wasn't that the outcome at Animal Farm as well (from George Orwell's book of that name)? Clover was an old stout mare now, stiff in the joints and with a tendency to rheumy eyes. She was two years past the retiring age, but in fact
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Between zeitgebers and being discouraged from using critical thinking, it's no wonder people are as screwed up while in the org as they are. This seems like a good explanation of why people are so obviously sick and tired while in the org. The whole practice seems set up as a series of zeitgebers. Until now I didn't have a term for it, but is definitely something visible from the outsid
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
I should also mention I found my only shakabukus and I apologized for potentially getting them into a bad situation. I feel quite a lot better since I've done so, like I've restored the balance in the universe somehow. I really did worry about that for the last while. The good thing is they never mentioned that they ever went to a meeting when I talked to them. I don't feel I'
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
My last one was sometime near the end of last year. No such thing had happened. I can't see that going too well here. There might have been a couple of hardcore members I could see doing it but the rest of us would have enough of an issue and not do it no matter what.
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteHitchI forgot to include the comment, too: "Guest • 10 days ago I really could've used this article in the physics class I took. Wish I had known of this then." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I'll bet that class was at $oka Cult U., too! If so, sounds about right! hahahahahahaha!!! **** Thanks for making my day, opendoor. :-)) hehehehe!! - Hitch Now th
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteTaitenAndProud And I may wake up married to Hugh Jackman tomorrow, too - right? You never know. Have you heard of NMRK or tried the magic chant yet? It works, you know. We only deal in concrete real proof. Please try it and get back to us. Here's your magic scroll. Don't forget May is contribution month. Once you wake up next to Hugh Jackman, and you most certainly will...you owe u
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteHitchTypical $GI CULT Mtg. hit up for May Contribution($) Month: "Right now, we want to talk a little bit about financial contribution$. Here is our Vice-area WD leader .... to give us some encouragement." "You guys are going to see, shortly, a DVD, on the May Contribution. The May Contribution is coming up next month. We're going to show it today and then we are
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Does that mean there is nowhere is safe from video removal? What about Wikileaks? I looked up Scientology on Wikipedia for a brief look at what happens when they try to get things taken down. It seems like the moment they get threatened to remove content they don't take it too well as they didn't consider Scientology to be an issue until they sent their attack dogs in. I know SGI's
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Hitch, It looks like he's been studying American televangelists as well. I have never seen this "poem" until now. In my mind I had a minister emotionally laying on the hellfire and damnation on his sheeple. It would have been funny to imagine if not for the fact this isn't a funny thing to read at all. It's no wonder it's well hidden. It would scare off anyone loo
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
T&P Your old butsudan is lovely, but I like what you did with it more :) I can't belive they'd take down your ads, well I can but you know what I mean right? I suspect someone might have thought you were trying to sell your only one and thought that equalled giving up the practice (the horror!) or they just want people to buy new ones since they wouldn't make anything off peopl
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Ok now they are working, somehow. The fan dance is interesting. There seems to be a constant theme of war since in this one the music sounds too much like WWII era propaganda nationalistic stuff did. That other one with the jazz players. Just, wow. I wasn't expecting the laughter and it caught me off guard till I realized why with my initial reaction being "wtf?". This danc
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteHitchThe celebration at a "grand reopening" of a $GI CULT pseudo-buddhist community center . Now, I ask you, where exactly is the "buddhism"?? All I see is bizarre cult-like behavior. I never saw anything like this when I was in the gakkai cult org.. This is completely unrecognizable to me. It just keeps getting weirder and weirder. - Hitch Now you are seeing
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteHitchthose who resisted the practice from their early years, but encountered some significant life event(s) stressor (like we all do inevitably) and turn to the cult org. in desperation and for easy answers. They join up to become hardcore, lifelong devotees. This latter group (2), I've seen a lot of. They've essentially been softened up for years by under the radar cult peer press
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
T&P, you've made me wonder how many addicts are in SGI and how many misfortune babies become addicts later in life. That would be interesting to see the numbers. Of course we won't as usual... I'm looking forward to your next post on butsudans. The last photo if you look at it quick looks like there's a peace sign on the closed doors.
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
T&P, you've made me wonder how many addicts are in SGI and how many misfortune babies become addicts later in life. That would be interesting to see the numbers. Of course we won't as usual...
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Quotecorboy "Dopamine creates engagement with life's pleasures, whether natural like cheesecake, an unnatural ones, like the pulvarizing fist of narcotic sedation. (Lewis is describing heroin). But when those pleasures are out of reach, when the goal is beyond your grasp, two things happen. First, if the goal remains attainable (chant harder and I will get it!!--Corboy), anticipated but
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
In response to T&P's video, here is one not unlike the documentary I had seen. It's my favourite one, the spotted one doing the handstand. I must have one. :) T&P, I wanted to address this before I got caught up in a bunch of stuff, but just how much does a butsudan like that run about? The one you had the photo of quite a while back. Were you fed the line, "it
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteHitch The implication was, that we YMD should strive to have that same kind of "Kansai Spirit" for The Dear Leader & Cousin Rufus, and be like those "lucky" and pure faith Japanese members. I think it was told by a Japanese YMD who couldn't speak Engrish very well. There was nervous laughter and shock from where I was sitting, with my buddy. I remember thinkin
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Heh, thanks :) It looks like I've been away from here for too long. At the same time it's good for detox not to have to be exposed to the lingo and general weirdness, I'm starting to feel like it's all just been a bad dream. God those songs are awful. I'm so gald we never had those, I can see myself throwing up in my mouth trying to sing like that. QuoteHitch It was
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteHitchYou can either laugh, cry or give respect after watching the following clip . I give my respect to the lady in the front, wearing a gray t-shirt, off to the left side of the room when the camera pans around (she shows up a few times, at 0:25 seconds, 1:13, and 2:14 minute marks, before they stop including her in the pan around). I know exactly how she feels. Bless her heart. M
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuotesixtysevenQuoteTheVoidI saw the Ghandi, King, Ikeda exhibition in Manchester once, it was a joke and I felt uncomfortable being there, and at most meetings I was told how great Sensei was and how he was a Master of 'this' Buddhism. Can anyone tell me anything of note that this guy has actually done, no one ever explained what he had done, but to question it was very much frowne
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
QuoteTaitenAndProudDo you ever run across something that triggers your remembering something similar that happened while Gakkai? ... The message here isn't just that we are humorless or Puritanical. The message is that being human or being real is somehow evil. This is one place I can feel exactly what the unbelievers are talking about. When I see Christians trying to rob young people
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
I found this entry on guidance. You know the source ;) Sampling of really bad guidance by: mroaks Sun Oct 25, 2009 at 22:31:01 PM PDT Here's a stash of "guidance in faith" that's sure to turn you into a sheep. This festival of stinko is attributed to "SGI Vice President Kawai, or Mr. Kawai's guidance in faith, conveyed by Mr. Noro, based on President Ikeda�
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
An interesting point I found/stole from Buddhajones Even Tiger Woods understands Buddhism more than SGI: Tiger Woods talks about Buddhism by: brooke Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 09:40:34 AM PST Shambhala SunSpace has the skinny on Tiger's recent statement, including this gem: "Buddhism teaches that a craving for things outside ourselves causes an unhappy and pointless search for se
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
More on Byrd from Buddhajones: Remembering Byrd by: brooke Sun Aug 01, 2010 at 11:56:47 AM PDT We're approaching the two-year anniversary of the death of Byrd, also known as wahzoh. I did not know her personally; I knew her from her very personal blog. After Byrd died, DD remarked: QuoteByrd was brave for putting verbal snapshots of herself online. She allowed people who would
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
The last post for tonight is a satire from Buddhajones. We've been so serious lately, I hope this lightens the mood in here for a little bit. :) Notes from a Mystic Law Compliance Officer by: Nine Lives Sun Jan 15, 2012 at 13:45:08 PM PST Our dearest mroaks inspired me to start re-posting items from the "old" BuddhaJones site. This satirical piece was first published in Jul
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11 years ago
sleepy skunk
Another goodie: Free At Last by: hereigoagain Wed Jan 25, 2012 at 16:02:19 PM PST (Welcome to the club of people who left the club. :) - promoted by Nine Lives) Lately, I have been thinking about how, a few months before I ran across an SGI-USA member in the late 1980's, I dabbled in Scientology for a minute. I hightailed it away from those people when I realized that the only
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