Some One changeagain Why are there no "like" buttons on this forum?
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Dear Some One - I believe you. I am angered that you had to go through this alone, and without the support of anyone. And, like you, I am angered that GW is held unaccountable and that the possibility of others being abused by this same person is out there. I love, though, that you are being kind to yourself and making YOU a priority. I love that you are doing this for the girl that never h
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Good watch on A&E (we use Sling, and this is an "on demand" series, so may not be available on regular TV): Cults and Extreme Belief. This has several different episodes, and is very well done. We started watching the last two in the series first which basically involves a group of ex-cult members (most born into a cult) in a discussion with a moderator and a therapist. Lots o
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lone.wolf and Onion - I haven't been around at the local SD church for almost 5 years, but they had the apartment there (the Taco Shell). At some point I was involved in cleaning and set up for 2 - 3 years, and involved in getting all the new furniture and decor at one time. One of the times, years ago before the remodel, was so ridiculous. Someone from APCO directed us on a certain su
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Puddington and RTD - I agree, and had just sent a PM to Mary about how it could very well be that this was her destiny. Mary - When I read your post, I only think for all of us - don't let anything come in about how our lives in the past were wasted. We have our whole lives ahead of us. I hope that there will be many times we meet face to face, but for now, if only via the inter
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Latest posting out of TLWF: An Update from The Living Word Fellowship November 20, 2018 We want to express our grave regret for those whose faith has been shaken by a recent accusation of sexual misconduct by a former leader in our ministry and the seeming failure of our church leadership to respond appropriately. We want to ensure you that you’re not just receiving our sincere prayers, bu
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I want to reply to each of you individually, because you are so WORTHY! But for now I will say I love all of you. I appreciate the stark reality that things are finally moving forward. I only started posting in the last few months (mostly because I got locked out on my first try years ago), but I have been reading for years. I appreciate the facts, stories , and the validation that we were not
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WALKED: I wish you would consider posting your story on the closed group Facebook forum for The Living Word Fellowship Survivors. Its important that all of the stories are told and read. I think it is especially worthwhile to hear from ones that were around during some of the previous years. There are ways to post anonymously if you don't want your name published. Anyway, thank you f
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Changedagain: To date there has been close to 600,000 page views of the discussion that takes place here. Obviously, our effort is not inconsequential. Shalom knew enough about this forum to also post her open letter here. So many of the kids have referenced reading the cult forums pages recently or a at some time over the years. I'm so happy that it fueled hope until Shalom was able
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And not just any Hawaiian shirt, but ones that are always way too big. (Which is why he developed that nasty distracting habit of pulling at the sleeves.)
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CHANGEAGAIN Possible book titles: 'Excluded From Leadership' 'Not Given An Answer' 'Where are We Hiding the Money?' 'God Wears a Hawaiian Shirt' I vote for God Wears a Hawaiian Shirt
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I'm so sorry you are going through this. If you can afford it, I would strongly suggest counseling with a therapist trained in providing professional help to people that have been in cult. I hope you can find some answers. Stay strong and go with your heart. You probably know many of the right things to do. Take care.
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Posted by: changedagain () Date: November 05, 2018 10:12AM Onion: "I have more to add on the very crucial focus to: FOLLOW THE MONEY. I've talked on the forum about how I used to be a lawyer but I also used to be the head of accounting for many years. I know a lot. I have a lot to say. I have a lot I can prove. I have a lot of ideas on where to look. I will share some of this info
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Bornintoit - So true - I guess we all have our own journey. I keep saying this to people, but I am thankful that we are being validated in everything that is going on. We are not crazy. Shalom has been phenomenal in leading us into this, but all have had a part in the healing and washing that is needed. I can tell you are feeling it! Mary (Onion) - I've yet to tell you how much
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Hi Carl - So happy to see your name. Its hard to forget people that you spent hours and hours with working. I'll agree with you that there were some fun times doing the accounting manual, especially tasting those lime margaritas that Mary Wright made, and the gelato - yum, yum, yum! But for the most part, I also think it took a toll on a lot of families. To address your comments on eac
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Nancy B It sounds like your son was from the same generation as someone that has written an open letter to the Living Word Fellowship. There are a number of posts from the generation, and others, that have been hurt and abused. You and your son might find it interesting, and help validate some of your thoughts. And, above all, perhaps it will bring some much needed healing. Here is the lin
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Hi Kathy - I remember all of you. I'm sorry to hear of your dad's passing. I always loved them. I knew that was your brother posting from his first post. I was just telling Dave how, even as I read these, I still picture the faces of when you kids were young (well, especially your brother - you girls as young women). Hope you are all well, and I'm so happy you are survivors.
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Hey, so this is KBOY's wife, Marci Wellens, and we live in San Diego. We lived and were married in Shiloh, then lived in LA and Wash DC, and then back to San Diego - oh and Dave came into the church at Haiku, Maui. Sorry, dear, I guess you're out. First, let me say that I find it completely offensive that Gary's apology was generic enough that he easily swept aside any bla
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I love the humor in this forum - it keeps us sane.
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I'm wondering if the page is also getting overloaded with so many posts at the same time.
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Shalom - I love you dearly. That said, I just want to scream after reading your letters. I am so furious at what you have been through. It is so TLWF-ish for them to somehow interpret everything in a way that makes you look like the perpetrator. I read these, thinking how much we apologized a hundred times for anything we may have done (because we really are only human) while writing and
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Some people reading and posting here may have left before much of this was was discussed, exposed, happening, etc. Or, may not be aware that the actions of shepherds abusing sheep, has been going on since the days of JRS, and has somehow become acceptable in the Living Word culture. But in case there is any confusion regarding the enabling referred to, it applies to the leaders (Gary and Maril
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RRMODERATOR: So, I'm curious, and need to ask, if you had noticed that KBOY took note of your disciplinary words and has been posting more generic encouragement, with a focus on not using the words that seem to offend. I trust that you will take that into consideration. We are in an interesting time right now with the "me too" movement gaining ground, and the Kavanaugh hear
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ONION: Mary, you were always one of the good ones in my book.
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RRMODERATOR: First, I want to say thank you for all you have done over the years to help the hundreds and hundreds of people that have had the courage to walk away from all this. Your list, comments, and knowledge of all of it is very appreciated. I have been reading this forum (daily) for several years, and am new to posting (first post was just a few days ago). With that noted, I want to be
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I'm a first time poster (and spouse of a long time poster). I've read all of the post from page one to the current posts twice. I feel like there is much to say, but I will keep this first post short. I left a little over 5 years ago after being in the church for almost 42 years. My name "that little red flag" refers to all the many times over the years that I felt a red fla
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