Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am a product of the Kingdom school system. Not > sure when they went to "home school" as a model > but from 1972 to 1983 I attended in Shiloh and DC. > What a mess. I remember hiding under blankets > (presumably from the neighbors) in the back of a > station wagon while they pulled in and
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On the horizon: Hargrave Family Concentration > Camps Yes, I suppose that there are still ways to make it worse than it already is, changedagain. Heil, GAH!!!
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow. It's incredibly telling of Shiloh's ulterior > motives that they want homeschooling space at > their facility only to turn around and treat those > kids as hired help. It's likely that they justify > the homeschooling space by saying the surrounding > school districts are a bad
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Unapologetic Apologetic, Yes, the old #1 control tactic: Guilt. It's bad enough to use adults, but working the kids like that is reprehensible. So is that how Shiloh is doing a school without having a real school now? Homeschooling classrooms? Please tell us more...
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GoingRogue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is the Garies talking about "God in the Sky"? As > in the God that members are ridiculed for talking > to? I doubt it. Just more shepherding > gobblety-gook. I meant to say "talking to" not about, as in GH's prayer in changedagain's quote. Or maybe GH could be just talking
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FYI, Alanzo of alanzosblog endorses Independent Scientology. Also see
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > excerpt from 'living word' > "Lord, we love Your discipline and we receive it > gratefully as sons, knowing that You love us and > are delivering us from all other gods that have > had dominion over us." > > The first god TLWF will have to be delivered from > is Ga
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From TLWF website, FAQ section: What commitment is expected of The Living Word Fellowship church members? The Living Word Fellowship is a vibrant community of Christian believers. We are fervent in our faith, in our love one for another, and in our dedication to Christ, therefore you will find a high level of involvement and participation by the members of the church family. There is, howev
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > * * * E E R I E S I M I L A R I T I > E S * * * > > > My wife and I just met someone whose mother was > involved in the following cult: > > The stacks of tapes! Oh, my!
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Does anyone else remember the super-secret LW doctrine of reincarnation? I don't think that it was ever spoken from the pulpit. JRS had supposedly been Samuel and John the Beloved. All the principal pastors had been someone special in the Bible, too. I was thinking about this the other day, and it struck me as odd that so many of those special Bible characters left the Walk. They must have b
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ! That's a very profound statement right there, changeagain! ;) Great posts, cloudwatcher and changed.
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Cloudwatcher... JRS, J&M, G&M, MH, GH, take your pick. They are a bunch ego-centric bad actors motivated by greed and power, for sure. I remember a story that Martha once asked John, "Are you feeling a little more divine today?" The faithful were very incensed at the time. Now it seems funny.
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Below is an excerpt from an article by Rick Ross regarding Scientology's efforts to use information control on their members. It looks like they actually market a device that controls what web-based info their devotees can see! In the LW, members were taught to self-limit their information. One of the first things I was taught, "Do not drink from many fountains." In other words,
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > puddington Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Maybe Gary will build a lavish mansion in > Brasil. > > On this secluded island: > > > > > > > I wonder if he could get all the other snakes to > submit to him. That would be one he
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The Garies are in Brazil...and they're still hammering on Obedience.
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Shiloh Summer Camp--What's the Worst that can happen? You could lose appendages or limbs at the sawmill. You could fall in the swamp. You could faint from heat exhaustion AND fall in the swamp.
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Cloudwatcher...How about FREEWILL...it's for sissies. CULTY and proud. I wish the LORD was my Shepherd and not __Fill in Name__. I came to Cult Summer Camp and all I got was this new psychosis.
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Larry Bobo Wrote: "They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the most prominent positions, preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called 'Doctor' and 'Reverend'." Matt. 23:6-7 Lol. Great translation, Larry. :)
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Coercive persuasion was rampant in the early days of the Walk and during the expansion of the seventies and early eighties. JRS used "cold reading" during weekly ministry services to wow everyone with his "Word of Knowledge". I believe that this one thing convinced many potential converts that JRS had supernatural, divine powers. He told people that Jesus had personally appear
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Tmason Wrote: > > > > > The SI Statements (available on the same CA > > > website) show a change in leadership. > > > > Yes, Rick Holbrook is now listed as Chief > > Executive
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Thanks for the link Tmason. Finding out all sorts of interesting things with that. > Main Business Search Page: > >
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Tmason, could you post the website link for looking up this information? Thanks.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've seen and experienced the damage caused by this > approach. If the people are not happy, they feel oppressed, > perhaps it is not them who need to change, but > leadership itself. I consider that an understatement. That's why learning about oppressive, high-demand groups is so importan
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Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Copy and paste the link into your browser. Happy > reading. > > > > > A little light reading...ugh!
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > None of the legal structures of TLWF etc. are that > strong and certainly are far from bulletproof. > The attorney relied upon by these organizations > has never done anything in the law except draft > documents that no one has ever taken the time (or > had the balls) to challenge. She has less court
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Tmason Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I too was abused I'm so sorry to hear that, Tmason. I'm catching up on your past posts now.
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From STAND's website: Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination Mission Statement Our mission is to protect Scientologists from intolerance and prejudice and to dispel rumors and lies about the Scientology religion, Scientologists, Church leadership and our Founder. The purpose of Scientologists Taking Action Against Discrimination (STAND) is to end forever the defamati
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Very informative, changedagain. Mind Control Destructive cults, groups, movements and/or leaders "maintain intense allegiance through the arguments of their ideology, and through social and psychological pressures and practices that, intentionally or not, amount to conditioning techniques that constrict attention, limit personal relationships, and devalue reasoning."  -- Margar
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The LW members who had the misfortune of attending the Shiloh "School of Prophets" sure got their "obedience training" from GH. "Obey the Lord, I mean me. I mean the Lord in me. I mean Christ in the flesh, AKA ME"! Wow. Just wow.
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light777 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This video was a reminder to me of the many, many > years of poisonous lies / deceit that I ate, > swallowed and digested! It was difficult for me > to watch the video as well GoingRogue, I > completely understand why you do not want to, as > there is no need to open up old wounds and then > do
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