This post was a follow comment from what I quote above - also so worth resharing. thanks lily rose and corboyand 40 lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > corboy Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > 40yearsin2016 wrote: > > > > QuoteHow many times did I hear JRS talk about > > being re-en
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This post was a follow comment from what I quote above - also so worth resharing. thanks lily rose and corboy lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > corboy Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > 40yearsin2016 wrote: > > > > QuoteHow many times did I hear JRS talk about > > being re-energized
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I'm still binge reading - I felt this post was valuable it bears repeating. e. corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We need to remember that there is healthy > narcissism - we each need some > in order to believe and FEEL we are God's > children, that creaturely as we are, > the Creator is mindful of us. This coexists with &
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Welcome JOHN DUFFY Thank you for your service in the armed forces
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Welcome Iampurple
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Richard M. Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reepicheep and NancyB: > > My one regret here, when reading what could have > been a more intrusive protest and correction by me > at the time into what should have been openly > obvious to all, was to stand up at a major > gathering and say all that I now "report." I > consider
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Excellent! thanks kBoy
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > typer Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > New to the site. Been reading since Oct. 2018 > when > > my wife and I went to a Palmer Lake church > meeting > > and found out in one fell swoop about Rick's > > predator nature. > > Gar
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is it just me or does this all seem like it has > been in planning for a long time? All without > inviting input from the general congregation, of > course. And definitely without any help from > survivors. I agree. "Why the no transparency?" would be a good question for the still faithfu
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I wonder once the audio tapes were digitized, if > his 'vision' remained the same. After all, The > First Principles were sanitized, and this would > arguably be even more controversial than that > publication. BTW, does anyone recall him making a > reference to Disneyland in his acco
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I believe we on the forum have identified G & M as narcissists. For those who have not feel safe to comment, yet, because you are still trying to figure out why we are refusing to be controlled anymore by TLW hierarchy check out this video on the personality disorder - the points will ring a bell loud and clear about the toxic manipulation we all have suffered from.
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I believe we on the forum have identified G & M as narcissists. For those who have not feel safe to comment, yet, because you are still trying to figure out why we are refusing to be controlled anymore by TLW hierarchy check out this video on the personality disorder - the points will ring a bell loud and clear.
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteNancyB > > John was nothing like his father. WJ as i knew him > was loving and kind. Anytime there was tragic news > to deliver in town and they weren't members of a > church WJ went with the police or sheriff to > deliver the bad news. > > WJ opened the doors to anyone even
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain - You are so right. I wish there was > a way to encourage people to speak out without > triggering the walk conditioning that makes us > feel like any minute we are going to get in > trouble for some newly added "wrong" to the > detailed and impossible list of do's and don&
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"Forgiveness" is a hot and touchy subject here on the forum. For me, personally, it seems like when people I know want to avoid something they say to "forgive and forget." It don't always receive that advice too well.( As a quick example of the "forgiveness' I'll pick on prettyboy and kBOYpost - sorry.) I think that many of us are trying to give Christ
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Onion's comment is worth repeating. Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have been looking at a lot of the requirements > for maintaining tax-exempt status and one > principle that I am loving is that if an > expenditure that seems to benefit those who are > connected to, or paid by, the nonprofit is > approved by the Board then
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We forum members who call our selves "survivors" of The Church of the living Word cult know that Gary Hargrave and his leadership team read our posts. We also know that other survivors and current insiders "lurk". Sometimes this forum gets TROLLS here to cause trouble and are not giving accurate information. that makes this whole sticky cob web mess difficult to sort out. T
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I have a unique perspective surrounding Shiloh from its conception that few on this forum know. As Shiloh in particular dissolves it is important to know that Washington county is watching and has been for all theses decades. It is more than my opinion, that the Washington community had often been disrespected by the antics of more than a few "members"/ followers of TWL organization
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I know I'm hogging there forum after binge reading 2013 to 2015 with one year having been wiped out completely. I quoted a comment from paleface to a guy named Timothy who claimed he dated a girl from the Washington church in 1970. He described the member as "farmers wearing overalls. And he named his girlfriend who was 16 - what he wrote had to have been BS. I had been a member
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lily Rose: > Yes, I'll stop lurking - want to assure you > there's more than 3 people reading your posts... > (I know that for a fact :>) > > JRS and Latter Rain: > JRS taught latter rain because that was his > heritage. At the time he discounted it but if you > look
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Apostle Dog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I made a typo on the last post, I was referring to > the time when Marilyn was speaking on the tapes > along with John. I feel like John was in a decline > and she was setting herself to take over then. > > Also, I was not accusing anyone of anything when I > asked the question of whether an
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Personally, I can't think of anything that would > be more revealing than the decision-making that > went into the selling of the churches through the > years. > The answers to the questions (below) should be > common knowledge within the fellowship, IF there > was a certain level of tr
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paleface Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Washington IA chuch was well known for being > uptight and legalistic. Timothy, JRS would not > have treated you like that. I'm fairly sure of > that, 'cuz there were plenty of us "screw-ups" in > the CA churches that he loved and accepted. Most > of the Shiloh folks hated
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Exactly! Confess your secrets - vulnerable to emotional black mail in exchange for your dream
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quote > NancyB wrote: > It is increasingly more clear that tlw collected > all kind of data on us but not as sophisticated in > the early days as is possible with computers. > Watch the key words you use - it is easy to do a > search engine search for even a not so expert to > find out a lo
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteNancyB > YIKES! the impact of this just hit me - hit me > hard on how diabolically deceptive jrs was to > sneak in occult garbage to suspecting Christians > in Iowa where I grew up in the '50's. OMG! > > thanks to posting this eye opener - my gut did > know this- but I need
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Is god's first name Fraud? If Fraud God gave you a word with 5 points - 4 points were fact but the 5th was a big fat lie - is the word of direction the truth or a lie? How do trust anyone who slips in lies?
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Hi reep. Whose kingdom indeed!
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Hey Onion, I am so happy you are with us. This is a damned complicated sticky mess we are in all together. I believe we all did what we thought was right at the time. We were are systemically deceived. None of us, including you, Onion, ever had the whole truth at anyone time. The cover ups were a deliberate attempt to have power and control that were not your fault, nor most of the members fa
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Exactly. Most of us give away too much information on the internet that is gathered. Example: you know about the targeted ads on FB? A small business or a even a mega biz can focus on specific details of their target market when they set up and ad. FB is just one example of social media that collects data. We agree to it when we sign up to use the Free Service. Most never read the TOS. We ma
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