Excellent points Kboy kBOY Wrote: Date: November 29, 2019 03:54PM ------------------------------------------------------- > > > One of the many conflicted doctrines of > Christianity is that 'the kingdom is coming to the > earth', while JESUS himself proclaimed that > 'I go to prepare a place for you (not here), so > that where I will be (not here)
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I meant to type "Not in Mint Condition" instead of "... to the coin shop. A silver dollar that was no in mind condition had a $17 value..."
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QuoteOnion Onion wrote on November 29, 2019 09:51AM "I agree that after that JRS never seemed the same. Drinking constantly. The Kling house was interesting as a home for John & Marilyn after they were together. John had a long work table in the "music room" by the atrium doors and he spent a lot of his time editing transcripts of the messages ("The Word") for public
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Welcome to the forum Northerngate. I have enjoyed reading your posts. You have added enhanced the puzzle picture with more pieces. Your questions are valid. So, I will had my typ-o input here and there to the already excellent answers. Every one, have you noticed how it feels like a brand new chapter in the saga of the Fall of the Walk? Northerngate Wrote: Date: November 28, 2019 09:4
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TheJewel Wrote: Posted by: TheJewel () Date: November 29, 2019 01:45AM ------------------------------------------------------- > Chachakitty Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Had to share... so my nephew was at Shiloh > helping > > with getting more stuff out of the building > prior > > to it being torn down. > > He
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I do beleive Dan Rather is correct about cults, as you pointed, puddington on Date: November 22, 2019 05:40AM Perhaps, with Cult Education forum there will be adequate conversational documentation that will save people some misery by seeing the warning signs early on.
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I am so glad you joined us, Chachakitty.
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Wow the thread on this page pretty much sums it up about The Church of the Living word or what ever the "Hargraves family" changed the corporate names to. It has taken a small group of survivors all these years to fit enough pieces together to identify the crimes. Yes, crimes in the guise of "bring in the kingdom of God sacrificially" con. Growing up in what was first a
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thanks changedagain for the heads up on the PTSD book. I will check it out. I'm always into great information to read and digest.
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A common theme among us baby-boomers of the walk was that we donated to a promised retirement home for our aging population. Those designated funds were else where. I contend there was FRAUD, tho' I am not a lawyer. In my snarky way I have to question what "the School of Prophets of profits" really taught? Does any one know what funds the auction money will go into? Who is
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Here is more hopeful news as we address only one of the covered up crimes, the rampant sexual abuse, in the Church of the Living Word. One of the first of many sexual abuse lawsuits expected under a new California law targets Modesto megachurch NEWSBOB ALLEN | OCTOBER 22, 2019 QuoteAssembly Bill 218 Oct. 13,2018 Gov. Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill 218, giving victims of childhoo
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Changed, "false realities" indeed! "Higher calling"? What does that mean? Leave babies and wounded behind to greener pastures? Onion Wrote: Date: November 14, 2019 03:54AM ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain - Perhaps #AnotherNewDay > #NewVictimPool > > Thank you, Typer. I remember JRS trying to get > Wayne married
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NancyB, > > Here's a link to the great website you quoted. > > thanks Reep. I was so sure I pasted it. Come to think of it the bug man was at a the door. good save! So, where do we go from here? G and R can't run and hide for too long. How corrupt G is. He had to have known the trut
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Reepicheep Wrote: Posted by: Reepicheep () Date: November 13, 2019 11:24PM ------------------------------------------------------- > Wayne Barton was an early omen of what was to come > in The Walk/TLWF. He had something JRS needed > (being a gifted church organist) and therefore was > tolerated and his molestation of church members > was covered up. There were so many other
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I think many will find this article EXPANDING THE SCOPE OF CHURCH LIABILITY FOR SEXUAL ABUSE CLAIMS Expanding the Scope of Church Liability for Sexual Abuse Claims relevant and interesting. In the state of Virginia a court may be finding churches" who knew but did nothing" liable for abuse. this could open new doors for us as survivors of some of the abuses in the walk. Quote
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Typer, I am so sorry. I should have given a trigger warning at the very least. I am certain that you are not the only one and I know that does not make it any better, I'm sorry. I applaud you, typer for coming forward. I believe it will help oter to heal and eventually legal the cases. Second hand I heard rumors that felt "icky". Most of us at age 21 were still so very naive
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Imapurple Wrote:Posted by: Imapurple () Date: November 03, 2019 10:06AM ------------------------------------------------------- > Even if that’s true and I don’t think it is. What > would that have anything to do with decades of > abuse and overwhelming control over countless > people and their families? Truth is , I was > molested when I was seven but I didn’t go on spree
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changedagain Wrote: Posted by: changedagain () Date: November 03, 2019 07:26AM ------------------------------------------------------- > > I came across a rumor today that Rick claimed he > was molested as a boy. I suppose it could be true, > or it could be yet another fabrication to garner > sympathy from those he has abused. From all the > accounts I've read he
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Onion Wrote:Posted by: Onion () Date: November 11, 2019 06:41AM ------------------------------------------------------- > Just in the past weeks, I have learned some things > that may be of interest or a warning of things to > come. > > As many already know, D. Bruce Larson and Gary > Hargrave are currently in Israel conducting a tour > with people from CLW and othe
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Reepicheep Wrote: Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Reepicheep () Date: November 02, 2019 09:46PM ------------------------------------------------------- > And yet again I wonder aloud, "Did/do these people > even believe in God? Or only in themselves and > their right to riches and power?" > > Also, what the hell was Marily
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Reepicheep Wrote:Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: Reepicheep () Date: November 01, 2019 11:15PM ------------------------------------------------------- > Imapurple and Onion, > Thank you both for shedding light into events that > most of us knew nothing about. These are sad and > upsetting revelations by those who were close to > G&am
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FYI NancyB will not longer be posting.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > An excerpt from Posted by: paleface () Date: September 27, 2013 > > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: paleface () > Date: September 27, 2013 06:27AM > > What will the future bring to the Living Word? > > If I may speculate,
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changedagain Wrote: changedagain () Date: July 19, 2019 ------------------------------------------------------- > I recall a few people in this forum referring to > phone calls they would get late at night to pray > for John because he was allegedly being assaulted > by his wife (verbally, I presume). I never > thought about it this way...but what if the source > of the
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ChangedAgain on 7/19/19 you actuallly came up with some great ideas. I do not understand what all Kalona, Iowa and Mid Prairie school district could do to benefit the community. But, I think the story of Shiloh needs to be told. Around the Washington county area and surrounding Iowa counties were a number of religious communities. In fact Iowa has quiet a history of religious freedom storie
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Good Question on 7/18/19 the Jewel when you asked "Did JRS ever claim that title (Dr. or PHD)? That would be a bit out of character since most of the time he preached against the seminary’s and the academic approach referring to them as cemeteries." I don't have a perfect answer because it was so long ago. In the early years I do recall seeing "dr" before his name
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changedagain Wrote:changedagain () Date: July 17, 2019 and quoted Reveal ------------------------------------------------------- > Reveal: > The abuse continued with nearly every other > shepherd I had subsequent to her. It was either > highly personal attacks or it was having my life > so controlled I could hardly stand it. At one > point it became intolerable, as a li
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Welcome JimK3 I am a native of Iowa and have been in a number of bodies but not Ohio. We probably know a few of the same people. I'd love to read what you have to say.
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 I try hard to look at sides of a coin or the other side of the fence. To be fair on this TLW forum discussing current leadership I feel it only right to listen to or read what ever I can that is presented by Gary Hargrave although’ he has claimed to have resigned. With that said, I am too cheap to pay for CD’s from the Living Word Fellowship or what ever corporate name they go by at any giv
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Reepicheep Wrote: Date: July 17, 2019 ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteNancyB > Back in those days ministers used "doctor of > divinity" to show how respected as a holy person - > like a Catholic Priest. > > > JRS as "Holy Person". I guess that was quite an > exaggeration. Or quite a scam. So sad. JRS livi
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