Thank you Richard for sharing. I am very sorry things turned out the way they did for you.
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NancyB - As you said, exposing an illusion is so > full of mixed emotions. > > What I hope people will realize about each other, > whether a person has decided to stay loyal at the > present time or may have left some time ago, every > single one of us suffered the horrible pain of > realizing
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New York time came out this today- I think it's a HOOT and 1/2 The Vatican has Secret Rules for children of Priests M-m-m? be sure to have a Rule for everyone on paper. It guess the god of the walk gave the same revelation to the leadership we knew and loved.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not everyone in 'middle management' (shepherds, > elders) was linked heart and soul to top > leadership. I think you are right, changed, about middle management. Not everyone was at the wrong place and wrong time. Some people are more gullible than other people as well ( like me) or kept
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tmason Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > And all the people said... AMEN! > > > > The beginning of the end will be to get the tax > > exempt status revoked. > > How is the free labor that generated revenue > that > > went directly
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Thank you Sunny and welcome I enjoyed my 1958 copy of First Principles back in 1960. I thought it was a very helpful Bible Study guide. with that said I studied that booklet when I was 10 to 12 years old. I remember some grown up people thought it distracted form the Bible. Well, I was a prepubescent so what did I know? I learned something form the First Principles. Did it warp me? I don&#
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here is an article that I believe would be helpful > to many people on this forum. The title is "Forget > About Forgiving Your Narcissist/Psychopath: Here's > Why ". > > Here's a sneak peek of the subtitles: > > You need to move on > You get more drained by the se
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, these ponderings. > > NancyB - I want to discuss a couple of things you > said recently about legal consequences for the > perpetrators of abuse. I, too, am not a lawyer > but even if I was still lawyering, I would only be > speaking to California law. As to my doctorate of > law, that i
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Any leads on Shiloh fiances? For years, tho' I was not there, I heard about M businesses. I wondered if Shiloh could maintain tax exempt status with someone pocketing money tho' apparently in debt. I'm digging deep for my family on the assessments of Shiloh which is supposed to be a trust. Would the stated of the IRS question the tax exempt status if an interested party question
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Walked Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Those who are hanging on to the tail end will > excuse Hargrave's fleeing as necessary to escape > the nephilim or false charges brought against him > by the likes of us-- who they consider Satanic > forces or whatever the nom du jour is. Anyone who > hasn't seen the light yet is so far up w
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JezTheBelle Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Onion Wrote: > > > > So, if you think of things we can do to help > > without putting families at risk, I hope you'll > > speak up about that too. > > > > If we stick together,
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Onion, and Jez you both a are doing amazing work. Grateful to have this forum with all the information or we all would be sailing in uncharted territory for all we know. HUGS
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pressingonbyHisgrace Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone else remember "Let's raise the level"? > Usually it was said when silliness or raunchy talk > began. > > Also, JRS was viewed by first-time visitors often > as having the persona of "a used car salesman". Good one! Pressing. It always bothered
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$4.95 for limited time only JRS Remastered! I'm not spending my money on these remastered tape treasures but the descriptions of each message content are real gems from 1968. I remember every title listed on the eCommerce shop of the LW. For those looking for history the blurb do tell the story of the seductive language to hungry people. I think, if you decided to read up on the p
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Talking about alcoholics... > > A few years after I'd left the walk, in the > mid-80's or so I think, I looked up Winston Nunes, > the famous layer on of hands from JRS's Latter > Rain days in the event in Seattle that supposedly > began JRS's unique revelations (later
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Welcome HappySAd, glad you joined us. Thanks for sharing.
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I have to wonder how many are still alive who were in the back room meetings. I always figured that there was some kind of emergency. i think I've said this before, I was not in any except to be reamed out for being a bitch and to shut my mouth. I had been close by at times - but did not participate in back room. I did sit in the upper room with jrs and M flitting a around. I hear stuff
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PRETTYboy: > > > Great story and awesome gesture. Do not discount > the value of that act. How kind you are pretty boy > > I drove a city bus for more than half a decade, > and continually dispensed 'gestures of kindness' > as part of my job, since a significant portion of
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > CHACHAKITTY: > > > Welcome to the FAMILY. I'm pretty sure your DNA > concerns are shared by many both on and off this > forum. As CHANGEDagain mentioned, you will > find help and encouragement here from those who > suffered the heat of the day like yourself. Welcome ChaChaKitty
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Excellent post, Onion. > > "The worst thing that ever happened to them and > their cult was a bunch of us getting together and > breaking the deeply embedded code of silence by > comparing notes. Let's NEVER stop." > > Yes Ditto!
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At the risk of not fully making sense, I want to blurt out something before I forget that has to do with investigations after allegations are made against someone. I was recently reminded of an off beat story to give as an example to try to make my point as the investigation o f the cult were in continues. (I'm not a lawyer. I', mo not perfect either.) I will assume that everyone is
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The Lord told me to tell you - NOT! Verily, verily and the Lord gaveth me a Revelation unto thee....NOT! I have been able to rest and relax with out any responsibility for the last few months, gratefully. I've been slowly recovering from a serious medical crisis - rest has been by job lately which explains why I've been spending so much time reading and posting on these forums. I�
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion Wrote: > > > > Each of us, all of us, any of us, must be > allowed > > to reach our own individual recovery in a very > > personal way. No two people should be > categorized > > and treated the same; especially not when the > > abuse was so long-standing (
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quotechangedagain > Yes, Hargrave and company always manage to dump > guilt on the victims--or at least try to. Placing > a requirement of forgiving your enemies > (highlighting certain verses in Matt. 18) is just > the latest manipulative tactic. The burden, of > course, is once again placed o
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For me, I left, but, still had the words "gullible" use me' "vulnerable" written eon my forehead for other narcissistic sociopaths who were looking for their next victims. I have been working on boundaries and my patterns of behavior that need to be re-wired. I can't change history nor can I change to ____ who took advantage of so many good people. ( fill in the
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deborahs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I appreciate your words. Is there a closed > facebook group anywhere going on? would love to > see if I know any of y'all! :-) I was in both > Illinois and Iowa. Welcome deborahs I was in Ia, Ill, and CA
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I see the "forgiveness" is a hot topic and I want to throw my hat into the ring. I believe we are all looking for resolution by doing what is right and healthy. - I think we can agree on that, right? We are all at different ages and stages and degrees of victimization, - right? The "Walk" taught us that this is ONLY way to do anything. There fore I want to raise aware
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have been looking at a lot of the requirements > for maintaining tax-exempt status and one > principle that I am loving is that if an > expenditure that seems to benefit those who are > connected to, or paid by, the nonprofit is > approved by the Board then all of the board > members could liable
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chaos wrote: > > QuoteYou need to realize that if you were > deceived, it was your own fault. That is a hard > thing to say, but for whatever reason, you ignored > the red flags, you knew that the Walk was strange > while you were in it. > > (Am offering this as an outsider. I got burned
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QuoteChaos1952I am curious about something. I > was familiar with all the Living Word churches in > the Southeast United States when I was in it, but > I had limited exposure to the churches of the > other areas of the country. Other than a visit to > Shiloh now and then, and a call to Com-cen
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