Quote Posted by: Onion Date: November 10, 2019 03:41PM Just in the past weeks, I have learned some things that may be of interest or a warning of things to come. As many already know, D. Bruce Larson and Gary Hargrave are currently in Israel conducting a tour with people from CLW and other TLWF churches. I heard that groups of people were told by Gary (and/or Bruce) that Gary Hargrave left
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Quote Posted by: 40yearsin2016 Date: November 08, 2019 03:04PM "It took me decades to speak the word "cult" out loud. I was walked out of LWF in 1984-5 (cannot remember exactly, those years were so traumatic). I didn't speak the word "cult" out loud until 2016, believe it or not that was when I finally felt like I was leaving my cage. "So many have differ
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It kind of sounds like JS was the one with anger management problems, among other things, doesn't it? It's so disturbing and disappointing to learn how the TLWF hierarchy routinely covered up clergy sexual abuse of congregants, and most especially of children. A nice big millstone is probably what awaits them.
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Quote Posted by: changedagain Date: November 07, 2019 01:08PM Ha 'Get Rid of Your Anger or I Will Beat the Hell out of You!' -a living word Changed, Lord knows we've all been yelled at and beat down plenty over the pulpit in TLWF churches. Your quote sounds just like them. ; )
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Typer and kBOY, Yes, your ideas sound much better than subjecting ourselves to more Pulpit-PTSD.
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Quote Posted by: typer Date: November 07, 2019 10:21AM John Sayer in PL brought quite a few words on people having anger management problems. He would read from some author about it over the pulpit (can't remember the book). He would call people out over the pulpit from time to time; to make sure we were all quaking in our boots when he brought a word. Typer, So he yelled at people
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Quote Posted by: changedagain Date: November 06, 2019 02:59PM Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: larry bobo () Date: March 14, 2018 03:14PM I was the herb guy for Des Moines and remember meeting with Damon Davis. He would talk to the plants to see if they were edible. A couple of times he talked to mushrooms that apparently lied to him about being ed
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Quote Posted by: puddington Date: November 06, 2019 01:10PM Reep: Afterbirth nutritional info: Puddington, Thanks for that. Uck! At least they make it into pills and not stew. Also, hopefully they don't feed it their friends. 8^O
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Ohman?, Yes, very strange. I suppose they thought that they were preparing the children to live through the tribulation or something.
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Typer, kBOY and Puddington, All I can say is that I knew some of what happened on "the farm", but I'm so glad that I didn't live there. What exactly was the purpose of eating someone's afterbith? Nauseating and weird. Of course, there was the time that Rocky chopped the head off of a turkey and the whole kingdom school had to watch.
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Does anyone remember the wine made on the farm and foisted upon CLW folk as communion wine? Nasty, bitter stuff. Ugh!
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And yet again I wonder aloud, "Did/do these people even believe in God? Or only in themselves and their right to riches and power?" Also, what the hell was Marilyn afraid of? Not letting her husband be taken to the hospital and properly cared for while he's dying of cancer? Making someone who is grieving sit through and observe the enbalming process? Keeping his body at home for
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Imapurple, thank you for sharing. Your experience of sleeping on the couch at Kling while JRS was in the same room in his casket sounds very uncomfortable and surreal. Interesting that you mentioned the closed casket. I had been close to JRS several years before his death, but not so much after the major changes in the late seventies (hint: the changes revolving around Marilyn Holbrook). Since mo
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Quote Posted by: Onion Date: November 01, 2019 12:54PM I received an email from a good friend who asked if Marilyn had always been duplicitous even in the early Blix days. I agree with everything you said about G&M in your letter Onion. I would only add that Marilyn was very harsh and thought a great deal of herself even before the Blix days.
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Quote Posted by: Imapurple Date: November 01, 2019 01:58PM No the 30k was not for the car. It was just a check from someone with money in Iowa ( I won’t say who ) that said she can do whatever she wants with it. It must have either been someone who sincerely believed that they were giving to the kingdom of God or someone attempting to purchase a semi-permanent (because everyone is expendab
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Imapurple and Onion, Thank you both for shedding light into events that most of us knew nothing about. These are sad and upsetting revelations by those who were close to G&M back in the days leading up to and following June 4, 1983. Facts that were known by a few were never revealed to the general congregation. I remember being shocked by Rich's announcement on a Sunday night in South G
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Onion, more barfing faces? You have to use your imagination...haha. =^€ :-{€€€
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Quote Posted by: Richarfarr Date: October 30, 2019 02:04PM It has been 22 years since my children we abducted from my home and taken into the church. They were never the same. Lucy Dithomas and Tina Hayjck will burn in hell. Marylin is already there. Gary Hardgrave is a total pos. Richarfarr, that's awful. I'm so sorry to hear this. More people formerly associated with this group
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I'm sorry. Maybe I'm depressed, but where is the barfing face emoji? How did we ever trust these people with our kids? They are not even good people, let alone good Christians, IMO. :_(
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Quote Posted by: kBOY Date: October 28, 2019 02:38AM O N I O N "I don’t know the full extent of the property hidden, but it was a lot. It included gold and silver coins and bars, jewelry (including diamonds made into rings for the Hargraves and Marilyn’s kids after JRS died), a significant arsenal of guns (he had arsenals in Los Angeles and Shiloh) and many other items I never knew en
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Yes, I think so too, Changed. Even when you've been gone for years, they still think they can scare you into silence. And then Shalom posted a year and one day ago. And the dam broke. They can't shut ALL of us up!
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Thank you, Shalom. How interesting that we reached page 1000 on the first anniversary of the day that you started an avalanche of freedom that can't be stopped. You are the best. <3
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A great post from reveal: Quote Posted by: reveal Date: August 20, 2018 10:21AM Some interesting food for thought...Knowing that TLWF monitors this site and reports its findings back to Kevin and Gary, isn't it telling that rather than using the information they find here to help fix what is broken and wrong about the church, they instead threaten and persecute those who speak out? If
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Hey, look! We're almost up to 1,000 pages!
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Quote changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As has been stated many times, the relationships > that mattered in TLW were not with > 'christ-in-the-flesh' leadership, but with our > fellow laborers who bore the heat in the kitchen > together, shook off sawd
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Quote Posted by: typer Date: October 24, 2019 09:01AM My wife came from Iowa to work in the word work in 1976 after she graduated from High School. JRS talked to her and assigned her to the Blix House and then to the Living Word Building in shipping and printing. She had saved $400 which lasted a year. She would like to thank you for making meals at the Living Word Building, which was the onl
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Thanks for re-posting typer's earlier post, Changed. And thank you, typer, for your insightful posts. That one was no doubt still inspiring me when I mentioned Gideon's 300. After reading what you wrote yesterday, I went back and read all of your posts. I'm pretty sure that our paths must have crossed in the 1970s. What happened to you and your wife at TLW is beyond the pale. We de
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There still remain those who believe that they are the elite, the chosen few, the faithful, the Gideon's 300. They have mulishly refused to read Shalom's letters, or the thousands of posts on her Facebook page, most likely out of fear of being rejected by "Christ in the Flesh". Two days remain until the anniversary of this remarkable feat of love and faith. I suggest that thos
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I took an ancestry test, but it didn't show any Satanic ancestry unless you count Irish. Aren't Leprechauns and Minnehunies sort of related? Which reminds me, those Minnehunies have certainly been neglecting their duty of protecting JRS' grave, since it has to be moved and all. ; )
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Quote Posted by: changedagain Date: October 22, 2019 11:47AM puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changed. I’m pretty sure, by now, we’ve all been > called nephilim. I recall that was the last thing > my LW pastor called me when I told him I was > leaving the cult. Wouldn't Satanic ancestry show up in a DNA test? If you haven
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