Twoteetwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > larry bobo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > I’ve mentioned it before, but I think it > bears > > repeating. For some strange reason, JRS seems > to > > be a sacred cow that nobody wants to > objectively > > look at. &g
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Ohman? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And tmason, > You said morbid curiosity. I have to disagree, I > just enjoy seeing who has come over from the > "dark side". ;) No big deal O man but I believe it was Lily that used the term Morbid Curiosity. I am sorry to hear about the difficulty you have had with RH. His reign of terror s
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FC Google Upper Cone Springs, NV That will bring you to the area and then you can see some old slabs and a pile of debris that was the water tower. You can still make out a concrete watering tank.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Welcome, Ohman? > > Ohman? Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Wow. New to this but amazing. Yep I'm a "blow > out" > > too. Bout '92 I left. Bet I know a bunch of you. > I > > wish you all well. I'm curious b
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TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I never knew R.D. Cronquist except to see him > sometimes at South Gate. He would put his chair > right next to the pulpit on the platform and sit > right in front of all the others on the platform. > That always seemed strange to me." > > > Yea RD definitely had a strange strea
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tmason: > > “The Kingdom Mine was in fact located in the > desert NE of Las Vegas in the Meadow Valley Wash. > Between Carp and Elgin along the west side of the > Union Pacific line you can still see evidence of > the settlement.” > > --------------- > > There are many miles bet
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My name is Todd and I am a former Mind control victim. Laughter is the best medicine even if it's at my expense! I am glad to help. I find this forum intriguing and I don't know why. Perhaps it's the voyeuristic quality of having so many reading your posts and knowing, even though they never comment, that it is in some way relatable to them. We all (humans) seek connection a
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Lily, I think we agree. I agree that the hippie, cult compound in the Nevada desert was not a Mine, as no ore was extracted. That doesn't mean that there was no TLW members living in the desert thinking they were the beginning of a mine that never was. Intent on the part of Holder or Stevens are anyone else simply doesn't enter into it for me. Anyhow, we can move past this subject
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The Kingdom Mine was in fact located in the desert NE of Las Vegas in the Meadow Valley Wash. Between Carp and Elgin along the west side of the Union Pacific line you can still see evidence of the settlement. The land was rented from a family that lived in Overton by the name of Breedlove. The last I visited, and I have been back twice in the years since 73, it had been sold to another family.
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Lili and Lamp, I think you are both conflating issues a bit. There was someone or something supporting us at least at first. It did become apparent that the money was gone at some point. I did say that I can tell you there were no millions spent. I was five. Maybe there wasn't even hundreds of thousands spent. Keep in mind if PH was the mastermind, he lived there also, with his family. On
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheJewel Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Try this one: > > > > > > 6/8/24680235/jrs_the_walk.doc > > > > It just worked for me. > > > Thanks, Jewel. > Here is an excerpt (pg 34-35) regarding the mine &
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FCSLC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it’s accurate. I gave $6000.00 to John > Hostetter and someone he was traveling with ( ? > Paul Holder) when they visited the Salt Lake City > church. I was 23 at the time and had saved nearly > all my earnings from active duty during my > exciting time in Vietnam. I don’t remember > get
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Where did everyone go? Where you all raptured and only I was left behind?
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TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Try this one: > > 6/8/24680235/jrs_the_walk.doc > > It just worked for me. Hey Diamond. (I just figured if your "THE Jewel" you should be a Diamond. Thanks for the link, I just tried again. Maybe it's the Hancock viewer on my tablet. I only get to page 18 before it loads the same
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jhorning Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FCSLC Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > SLC stands for Salt Lake City, Utah. There was > a > > “Church of the Living Word” in Salt Lake > City, > > Utah named “Faith Chapel” from the late > > 1960’s to the mid 1980’s. > > > &
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > tmason.....I don't know if you have read > Reflections from the Wall by Nichols. As I recall, > there's a lengthy chapter on the mine. I don't > have a link handy but you can google Reflections > from the Wall Nichols and find it. Lily I have not read the paper by nichols and this i
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strange... Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was there too...I know all of these people. > I am not sure if I want to go down this road. Strange, we all have this choice to make. Revisit the past or not. For me it hasn't helped me shutting it out. I loved my fellow sheep and many of the leaders even if they to were duped by JRS and more pointedl
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Holder was prosecuted in San Diego in 1978. > It seems to me that his son has posted on this > website... Little Paul was a friend of mine and helped me carry the water (literaly)
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FCSLC Wrote: > > > Better still; maybe we should throw it all out > and > > enjoy the boon of being “a law unto > > ourselves.” > > > Ha--I think we've earned it! As evidenced by this blog, I think we have thrown it all out!
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As for the fraud part of the story a five year old boy wouldn't know. I can tell you that there is Gold in the Nevada sand and the flash assay process has been perfected by a company now doing very well. The difficulty associated with the undertaking was compounded by TLWF family of hippies and broken toys (from the island of broken toys) that had zero experience with any earth moving or pr
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If so then Little Paul should hit me up on the PM. How are the Holders doing? They certainly had a family of kids vitimized like the rest of us.
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Any idea how life is treating her? Went to school in Shiloh with her. She told everyone that Don McLean was her uncle. True or false?
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Changed, Was Bob M the father of one Sandy M? 2016, I recall my father getting "confirmation" for us to move to the middle of the desert and attempt to mine gold from the Nevada sand. He sought confirmation for every move we ever made; like a good soldier would. When the effort in the MEADOW VALLEY WASH failed we were literally left stranded and broke. We lived in a motel in Tu
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Thanks for the warm welcomes! So many of the things you all are saying just make me laugh out loud. Not because they are untrue but because even as a child these things made me laugh. I got thrown out of class many times for being unabe to control my laughter when the hypocrisy got to deep. I recall one event at Shiloh where they released balloons in the sanctuary and one guy, Jeff C, said, "
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Lily, The abused child you refer to wasn't me because I never mentioned a word to anyone until I told my wife just a few years ago. Very disturbing for me because I do not recall all of the details. Perhaps JRs prayer came true for the wrong kid.LOL Dan taught us law at the LTW school in DC and of course a child's view of cults and the like is very limited. At the time and even now I
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I was there from the start. 1972 in San Diego with Royal D. Lived in the desert with the LTW family and lived at "the farm house" at Shiloh. From a child's perspective it was all fun and games until the sexual abuse. I attend TLW schools until 1984 and I can tel you that very few if any of my classmates are part of this now. The great effort to brainwash the kids apparently faile
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Greetings, So great to find this forum. I am truly torn on my opinions and feelings. My family joined TLW in San Diego in 1972 or therabouts. My mother still attends. I stopped attending in DC back in 1984. I met a girl in 1984 and of course I was forced to choose between TLW and my now wife on 30 years. Haven't been back since 84 but obviously this recovery requires a lot of time and the
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