changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Too bad back in the day no one had the foresight > to suggest this as a possible Kingdom Business: > 'Scandal Moving Company.' > Disregard this comment. Flash from the past!! I have a name for that Scandal Moving Company...how about American Way Moving and Storage... they still owe me a
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Onion wrote: > > My cousin in Iowa shared with me that the > > English River offshoot of Shiloh, had an email > > from Steve Seboldt (which was read aloud in > their > > Zoom service) where he
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old habits are hard to break
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Welcome to reality reveal. I don’t know if I know you or not but i know we have endured similar abuse at the hands of TLW and my heart goes out to you. Don’t stop improving. Every day seems to bring a little more clarity and I have been out for over 30 years now. Best to you
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion: > "It is a big ego boost for Dr. Gary Hargrave, > Chancellor of Shiloh U, to be linked to an > Internationally respected organization like the > Jerusalem Center and what a plan that must be. He > gets to reap from what others sowed in > establishing a relationship with Shlomo an
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that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tmason - > > I’m with you a bit on the caution that there is a > need to go easy on the acting leadership. Dave and > I had many times that someone tried to pull us > into the leadership or some kind of “it” group. We > just couldn’t buy into the requirement of laying > aside wh
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Onion I have to push back a little on your "pondering" post. I am sympathetic to the plight of the people that were put in legal jeopardy by participating in the management and leadership. I am sure some knew what they were getting in to and some had no clue. Either way, when the realization came that they were being asked to break the law, they had a choice. The choice may have been A)
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quotechangedagain > Dissent brings retribution, at least from my > experience. The uncomfortable truth is that anyone > who considered themselves a ministry during the > reign of G & M & R (Gary, Marilyn, Rick) were only > kidding themselves. They were merely > figureheads...having the
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Speaking of how the G&M dynasty drummed out any would be competitors....I was thinking that its seems very odd that the extremely popular elders that were beaten with an organic carrot and hung by their toes to dry seem to have family members that assumed leadership roles after their executions. Think Leilani, Sarah Staton Raba and her husband Bob..are there more that I dont know? Seems odd
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Prettyboy - I'm afraid some of the legal > aggression we were all feeling may be somewhat up > in smoke (thank you for the Cheech reference). > There are many who are down, but definitely not > out. > > The State of NY just changed the statute of > limitations so that any person sexually
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 755,000 page views to date... > I think the reference to Travis McGee may result > in a surge of page views. > Just speculating. Check again Changedagain....we are gaining speed.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ohman? Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > From Hawaiian shirts to orange jumpsuits > please!! > > great slogan :) I still like the old school black and white stripped outfits. They look really good on the convicts out in the hot sun breaking rocks! One
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > P.S. It looks like the previous post was > 8001 on page 801. > > CHANGEDagain likes to monitor those things. TLW takes the lead on CEF with the most views! Way to go overachieving backsliders. I will interceed on all of your behalves, dont worry.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NancyB: > > WELCOME back to the fray. Someone obviously let > the dogs out. XOXOLOL I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE Kboy > > > * * * * * > > PRETTYboy: > > Keep it up and you will most assuredly land on the > WATCH LIST. (Welcome to the club.)
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can anyone explain what the "unfolding" was? I > have seen the term quite often, and it is often > paired with another term which together seem to be > walk lingo for some miraculous "spiritual" events. > The significance of these events appears to be so > ingrained in the cul
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, dear...the flashbacks are intensifying. I need > to read some of the Cult Education research to > counterbalance. > > All I can remember from the Unfolding and the > Unwrapping series of messages is that I believe > they came in the islands and they was more > conversational in nature
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Another piece of information for those still searching like I am. What I picked up the most was that there doesn't seem to be any "accidental" cults. The means and methods the cult employs in controlling the members require deliberate, planned and coordinated actions to succeed. As a cult leader you cannot indoctrinate victims into a loose set of ideologies and exert no mind cont
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NavyVet79 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Question: Is anyone considering any legal > class-action or criminal pursuits? Just curious. > Thanks NavyVet PM me
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The most posts and the views are increasing. WINNING! LOL 652,249 VIEWS 7,548 POSTS
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As we enter the holiday season, it would be a > wonderful time to re-establish family > relationships. One of the first destructive > things TLWF did was to break family ties. Calling > G&M Mom and Dad is the most dishonoring thing we > could have done to our natural parents. I would >
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The best next step for the Living Word: > > Right on PUD! and also for the musically inclined: Lyrics … The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire (We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn) (Burn, motherfucker, burn) The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire…
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Happy Thanksgiving Changed. My New Years resolution is to make room for more peoples shit on my calendar. I enjoyed handing out candy to little kids at Halloween and I cant wait to buy a nice big 9 foot Christmas Tree for my living room.
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Lone Wolf....you are far from alone. My family has been part of TLW for forty seven (or so) years. When I "blew out" of course my treatment was the same. With one or two exceptions my friends were not permitted to associate with me. My parents have seen there five grandchildren maybe three times in 25 years. My mother is the only one left now and she is still in. Anyhow, the only wor
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And all the people said... AMEN! The beginning of the end will be to get the tax exempt status revoked. How is the free labor that generated revenue that went directly to them protected under IRS rules??? There's a reason they say "don't mess with the IRS"
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kbyrne Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > A lot of people are trying to hold on to JRS > and > > his teachings in the midst of this and that is > > heart breaking because he was a rabid > perpetrator > > himself. He consciously and activ
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NavyVet79 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > About that: > Just who in the H*** do they think themselves to > be that they can dictate to whom I can or cannot > speak to about the TLWF? Is this a country that I > need papers on me to move about? I think not!! > And about "designated relationships ", that is an > absolute NON-STA
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The organization has imploded and those devastated > will need help in finding a path toward recovery. > This forum can help, but since the psychological > wounds are so deep, the path toward recovery will > almost certainly need to involve professional > therapy over many years. In an ideal wo
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh My. That wasn't too convincing. There are none so blind as those that refuse to see!
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dirtybrushes Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "In addition, we are reaching out to those > negatively impacted by this behavior, to offer our > apologies as well as counseling with outside > professionals." > I haven't received any care packages with Organic Carrots or This Weeks. I am sure the apology will include a big fat c
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that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Kathy - I remember all of you. I'm sorry to > hear of your dad's passing. I always loved them. > I knew that was your brother posting from his > first post. I was just telling Dave how, even as > I read these, I still picture the faces of when > you kids were young (well,
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