GoingRogue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A little more gruff sounding from the Shiloh > website. Does anyone know why they're stopping the > public show? > > Could the LW be turning inward again? Or is it > just due to financial priorities? > > > They are going to spend less and less on the congregants. I suspe
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GoingRogue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, very unethical. Here is more proof that JRS > did, in fact, use the PhD title in the early days. > > Another link to the Ethel Waters vinyl. Click on > "More Images" to view the back of the album where > "Dr." John Robert Stevens wrote the program notes > and to get a
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Today is a good day. > > I have located the Factnet.org forum in its > entirety: > > > > If you can't find it via the link, you need to > start an account at archive.org. Type in the URL > "factnet.org" there, and select a time before > 2015. It takes a long ti
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > * * * F E A T * * * > > This forum should allow us to have our feet in two > different worlds; the one we left and the one we > are currently in. We should find encouragement in > the fact that we did take a step out of a > confusing past and into a day with more clarity. > That is no small fea
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rrmoderator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > To whom it may concern, > > This thread has been up and running for a long > time and it has helped many people. > > Trolling is against the rules of this board and > trolls will be banned. > > Anyone who is trying to cause arguments and > agitate on this thread is a troll and
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GSchaeff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > In that reality, the same > text can have a widely different personal impact > on two people. It can be light and inspirational > for one while simultaneously humiliating and > destructive to another as they associate an > entirely foreign set of memories with that text > than the person
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The "duping" had layers. First was Stevens duping > the girl. Then it was Stevens and the girl duping > the guy who married her. Twenty years later when > the duping was exposed to the duped husband and > thereafter he and the Hargraves keeping the secret > and thus duping the entire churc
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > GSchaeff Wrote: > > > > > In a way, this extends to Marilyn. > > Even if Marilyn went on to exploit congregants > > herself, she began as his secretary. I've seen > a > > lot of theories about how she used her job as > > secretary to slither up and manipulate
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, hi folks. Today my husband received an > unsigned letter with no return address in the > mail, postmarked HONOLULU, HI > > Here is what they wrote. Please give me your > thoughts, or let me know if this has ever happened > to you. > > "Husband's Name, > > I k
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this Gary’s new GF? > > Yes
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >Someday, the light will shine on Hargrave > Family Ministries and all will be able to “follow > the money”. Yes sir.
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This lady knows about the LW in Los Angeles Area and has helped a lot of people.
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acesandates Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reep, you can pick away in imitation analysis, > dissection, or deconstruction of my texts and my > positions. But here's the thing, YOUR view, > opinions, judgments are not dispositive of > anything, other than what you subjectively believe > was/is the case back then. Equally, you seek to
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seventies walker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have to reply to acesandates. > John Robert Stevens was deceived and was a false > e prophet. > I was deceived and thought I was a prophet. We > e were all deceived and living a lie. >>>>>>> > Fond memories of the good times do not change > ge the facts. Yes, A
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acesandates Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain...you are awfully bitter and smug in > your assessment of the apostolic ministry of JRS. > Even if he was a charismatic ego (whatever that > psychologically entailed) he also was an > authentic apostolic vessel of Christ's spirit. And > I, for one, twice underwent a direct expe
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Invisible Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > We can find fault with anyone or anything if we > > choose to do so - we can even cry about how we > > were robbed of all the presents we didn't buy, > > give or get because some one told us not to >
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lily rose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Great to hear from you again dbc! I didn't know > that about the Iowa Church. Rebels without a > Claus. That is too funny Lily
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corboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In the early stages of training a hunting dog you > have to give lots of explicit instructions. > > Once the dog is thoroughly trained and knows his > or her master, only small signals are needed > > > In a well run cult, things reach a point where the > leader does not need > to gi
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Invisible Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > John Stevens, > > He brought extensive historical teaching about the > origin of Christmas and several other holidays. He > brought Scriptural references out of the Old > Testament to support what he believed gave insight > to how the ancient worshipper's of God, being > warned by the
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Welcome Reepicheep. Yes we were ripped off of Christmas -- our families cheated out of a very special time for so many years. Then Lord Fauntleroy wants his C Truck and -- well so much for Saturnalia. Let's go caroling. It was a wild ride and living at the whim of insane people--sick and insane and ruthless.
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Tknc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This statement is something I have heard all my > life (even though my family left the church in > '82). The entire time I have been married to my > wife, my family would tell me she "needs a > revelation" of Christ and the body of Christ aka > my family. She tried for four years. She nev
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Hi all, guess I missed the conflicts on this board. I will only say, this is for the benefit of people who were injured, some deeply, some not so much. Some of us lost our families. G man is a creep for doing what he is doing--one sick bastard. John could have been a great pastor, and in some ways maybe was, but because of his delusions and deep fear of rejection, he turned and captured th
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LILY ROSE: > > Many years ago a couple of active members in TLW > caught me filling up my 80 gallon trash can with > 3+ decades of ThisWeeks, cassettes, CD's, and LW > Volumes. Their outrage and incredulousness was > met with a smile and no comment, as they started > to rifle through it a
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LampShmamp Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I believe that the assumption that we need > periodic updates regarding the number of page > views to date is incorrect. Just saying. I completely disagree,Lamp. I am glad that Changedagain has kept track of page views. It is good to keep tabs on what is happening outside of this forum. The words we wri
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NickleandDimed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain, > > Gary IMO advanced quicker than his peers not > because he was more dedicated or submissive. He > had a greater ability to preach. Those instant > pastors and their home groups Lily mentioned when > the LW was growing had to tithe to John. Money > came in during thos
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The kids would also be told that the Easter bunny > couldn't come because they hadn't created a pure > enough atmosphere for Him. They would be told they > needed to give their spirits to the Easter bunny > and keep repenting until they had a revelation of > Him. They need to repent unti
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Passover — The End Of Disappointment In > God’s Heart > > Posted on April 15, 2017 > by Silas Esteves > > > 4/passover-end-disappointment-gods-heart/ > > "Let us enter into the true Passover experience as > we feel God’s frustration and disappointment in > His search for
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SouthGate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Hi all, checking in. I got caught up on the > posts > > --mulling things over. Some ideas I have read > > have been disturbing. I am pissed that G man is > > twirling the Lw around and around
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Hi all, checking in. I got caught up on the posts --mulling things over. Some ideas I have read have been disturbing. I am pissed that G man is twirling the Lw around and around with no end in sight. Over and over and now we find that there are other deities besides God? I bet he slaps his knee and laughs about what he can get these people to believe. Yikes I am making no sense. Well, anywa
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "When the light bulb in the mind comes on and the > spell is lifted and the healing comes, you realize > the LW never was God, never can be God and never > will be God." > > So true, LR. I know this light bulb personally. > Talk about an "ah ha" moment ! Me too. It
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