Liamthomasusa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > All of us should be raising our trumpets and > playing .... “FOLLOW THE MONEY!” A forensic audit > should be contracted before Gary or any other > board of director makes any changes.... in fact > that responsibility should be given to an > independent group. > > Follow the money and
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Oh okay Blame it on the holy spirit---here we go folks.
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Blowout Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I doubt he's following this thread... but maybe > it'll get back around to him or bare minimum some > of the Palmer Lake congregants will read: > > Jason, > > I know this whole week has likely been devastating > to you. Please don’t take my statements as too > cold or unaware
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh Blowout - Thank you. I didn't even catch that > Drbuckunghammd misspelled his own name (or the > name she rather than he? was using). I know both > Buckingham men and both are very smart and well > educated. The post didn't seem to come from that > background but I thought perhaps it wa
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Unapologetic Apologetic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well, I have some updates to post. Some good, some > bad. > > Yes, TLW is taking credit for starting this > investigation and uncovering Rick's abuses. > > Yes, leadership has stepped down and supposedly > APCO is being dissolved. > > But the underlying problem
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I too am skeptical of what is going on. What happens in the corporations will tell the story. Did they resign from boards of directors? Mary said that will not be a known factor until after tax filings next year. I have not heard anywhere that Gary has apologized or is "on his face". It seems to me that people are stopping short when it comes to mentioning his name in the same sen
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion promised and delivered that there would be > proof of Gary’s knowledge of Rick’s behavior > decades ago. Many others are also starting to > share their stories from all parts of TLWF. The > leadership that permitted this type of behavior is > still in power and within TLWF they still hold
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The point is that crimes were committed. The people who perpetrated or covered up for those crimes especially against children, should be facing the long arm of the law if at all possible or civil justice. None of them should be in a place of pastoring anyone. In truth, Rick should be a registered sex offender along with anyone else who touched a child. I am pissed. These pastors wives have
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Shalom, Reading your words and the words of others on Facebook is boring a hole in me. I love you and cannot even begin to tell you how thankful I am that you came forward. Our thoughts on this forum have been dismissed over and over with G man's ability to deflect and discredit. But now the truth is there in the blazing fire. We have not been making shit up. We were telling the truth.
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KBoy says: "No matter how glorious the 'word' extrapolated from the scriptures, it will never be enough to offset the actions of lives lived in contradiction to it." In a word my friend, says it all.
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. It doesn't matter to any of TLWF who did what because Gary represents God. He can say what he wants when he wants--do what he wants when he wants with impunity. He has layers protecting him--because you do not question God--ever. It is doubtful that anyone left will escape that place now. Gary has it covered. I once had a phone conversation with RRMOderator. He told me that TLWF
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Lifeontheotherside Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree with you Larry. I have been watching all > that has been going on recently with Rick. I have > watched it before. I wished in the past that “THIS > WOULD BE IT!” Accountability and truth. It never > was and sadly don’t think it will be now. I too > think that Gary needs to take ful
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We Must Break ... A ... > Community > October 13, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave > > > > > ". . . as we leave... we are under the > influence ...He will ... give us ...spirits ... (TLW leadership)
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Thank you so very much southchicago. Your words are very appreciated as they peel back yet another layer. Many on this forum are accused of all kinds of wrong motivations for posting here. But to hear from the family with another whole perspective---it is a boon to all of us. Marilyn was ruthless during her reign as the queen. The pain and destruction she inflicted on families cannot be qu
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I would rather dribble in my soup in a cuckoo's nest than go back to that shit hole. I will forever be so sad for all who have not been able to escape. I got lucky I guess---it was the flick of a switch for me and I was done. The price is dear but not as dear as my freedom.
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larry bobo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > First of all, I wanted to say that I’ve noticed a > difference in kBOY’s posts, and I believe he has > tried to make adjustments so that he meets > rrmoderator’s requirements. As an electrical > instructor, I get paid to research and then to > condense and simplify my findings as a time saver &g
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To Tell The Truth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > girls_turn_it_off Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > rrmoderator, > > > > Dude, what is your issue with kBoy? He's been > on > > here longer than most of us and is respectful > to > > others. You completely ignored numerous
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And also remember that everyone of the little people in TLWF was innocent and did not deserve what happened to them..robbed of their autonomy and right to be free. And it was only the fault of JRS, though he was beloved and would never have wanted what happened following his death--- the rod of iron of the new rulers, Gary and Marilyn. And it took a lot of beatings to bring people to this fo
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I apologize for my skepticism and sarcasm if it offends anyone. I do think that the full disclosure as outlined by 40 years would truly show that there has been a change--a phenomenal change that could have such a positive impact and healing. If it were true that this is what the leadership of tlwf does want, and people would face up to legal/criminal acts -- names divulged for the sake of justi
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok I'll play... > > but instead of filling in a questionnaire, Here's > what I require for my healing. > > Amy should, being charged the responsibility since > "Gary doesn't want to get involved": > > 1 - Read this forum - all 689 pages > 2 - Read Woo
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dbc - ditto double ditto
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The current campaign requesting communication is > nothing more than a fishing expedition. The > leadership is going after another wave of people > who like them and believe them and feel warm and > fuzzy when they say, "trust me." If we > communicate with them about our concerns and the &g
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You know they did this "open door" thing quite some time ago with meetings every week so people could air their concerns and complaints in an open forum. Nothing was done about anything--and important and valid concerns were voiced. After they had collected enough information, Gary turned around and told everyone in the church they were deceived and put them in their place--threatened
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howmidoing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Everyone, > > I have not been on for a long time, nearly a year. > I needed to stop thinking about it. I also > realized there is nothing I can do. And keep > moving forward. > > But I wanted to tell you and everyone here that > something interesting is happening at CTLW. >
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Didn’t Rick move one of his victims from LA to > Shiloh and then back to LA? Having an affair the > whole time? Isn’t this an additional crime? > Transporting a minor across state lines for sexual > relations? It wouldn't surprise me if there were many. He had carte blanche. I just don'
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It is very sad when you think about the sexual abuse allegations in TLWF now coming to light. Every single adult, including the parents of the victims, knew that Rick was screwing underage girls and that the 2 of those he had affairs with and subsequently married, were underage when he took advantage of them--and when caught with his pants down--had to marry them to protect himself--I imagine t
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is wonderful to see those who formerly believed > that hiding alone in darkness was the only safe > place, who now see a ray of hope on this forum and > have the courage to step into the light. > > In the anthologies of religion there was always > some personification of the 'great-deceiver
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Reading through the posts these last few weeks is encouraging to say the least--that the truth is aggressively being pursued. I have done a lot of work on uncovering things I will be forwarding to Mary. I have also studied many of the scriptures that were twisted around our heads and deciphered true meaning from the viewpoint of historical Christianity. I think people have been nervous about ac
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kbyrne —. BURN IT ALL !!!! It will make a lovely > fire. To use Walk terminology: you have to break > your bond with The Living Word. : ) I wish I had waited until I could have a bonfire to throw them in --the LW bound volumes, cds, tapes and all literature. But it did feel good to dump them all in the
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kBOY Wrote: --------------D----------------------------------------- > ONION: > > > Perhaps it is posts like yours that have got the > natives restless and the rats scurrying for higher > ground. > > Does the U.S. have an extradition treaty with > Brazil? > > Just sayin . . . I had the same question. It think it is difficult except in crimes
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