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5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The quack in Palms Springs was named Marvin Stein? > I recall him trying to treat Jeff & Sandy Hayes’ > son for cancer. Sadly, it didn’t work and I often > wondered if regular agressive medical treatment > would have been better.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Dear Some One I knew your dad's family--I was young but I remember when they got married. Didn't know much after they moved to Shiloh. I am saddened for this--it is just awful. I had no idea this shit was going on. All those years in the darkness--hiding. I didn't go to Shiloh -- I was terrified of it--hated the violent intercession and people came back really weird. But this?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You know something? Yogi sounds a lot like > Marilyn here: > > Yogi Berra explains Jazz. > > Interviewer: Can you explain jazz? > > Yogi: I can't, but I will. 90% of all jazz is half > improvisation. The other half is the part people > play while others are playing somethi
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi All - I just got back home this afternoon from > a WONDERFUL visit with . I > have never experienced such loving hospitality > before. What a privilege and an honor to be with > them. > > Of course being away from the computer for a day > has my mind reeling with questions. For example,
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
lone.wolf Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thank you so much for the warm welcome! > > Like Onion, I too, feel most safe posting on this > forum. I am on the FB Survivors page, and there > appears to be a mix of people. Some who have > created lives away from TLWF and have been long > removed, and who are there to share their story
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Thank God we aren't Facebook. I am here but it is strangely quiet.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
dirtybrushes Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lone Wolf; > > Thank you for joining the host of people who have > acknowledged that the emperor has no clothes and > are willing to come forward and talk about it! > > My "moment" of no longer being able to listen to > Gary without rolling my eyes came around last > summ
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Latest posting out of TLWF: > > An Update from The Living Word Fellowship > November 20, 2018 > > We want to express our grave regret for those > whose faith has been shaken by a recent accusation > of sexual misconduct by a former leader in our > ministry and the seeming f
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
FireWalker Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Someone mentioned the tlwf bullshit letters from > early Oct are posted . Does anyone have pdf > copies of them they can share? > > New to this forum so no worries if my random ask > is met with silence. I just didn't down load one > of the two letters and am pissed I didn't. >
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Welcome Lone Wolf. Your story is yet another in the long line of broken families. I am sorry for the loss you incurred and there is no reason for it that makes any sense except this is high level, long-term, deep-seated mind control--to the hilt. I hope that KBoy is correct--but I am very concerned that this is becoming a dangerous situation for those who have recently left or are trying--cuttin
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I wish we had a "like" feature something like on Facebook. Any way RRModerator?
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don’t recall where I read this but apparently > JRS plagiarized from a lot of other Latter Rain > teaching. Nearly all of the First Principles were > stolen from someone else. No wonder we were told > not to “drink from other fountains”. He didn’t > want us discovering how unoriginal his “apo
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I remember that one of the impediments in my own > thinking in letting go of JRS and the words he > spoke (note no capitalization on words) was > because I could see that coming in to the church > and believing in JRS the way I did, had done a lot > of good in my life. > > Then I began evaluat
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I just want to say that I love you all. This > > forum saved my life in those early days--people > > reached out to me in my despair. I was able to > > vent without being judged--it is kind of fun to
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I just want to say that I love you all. This > > forum saved my life in those early days--people > > reached out to me in my despair. I was able to > > vent without being judged--it is kind of fun to
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
thisisthetime Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am new to this board, and I am not with the TLWF > anymore. I am done with this group, when Shalom > put out her courageous open letter. But I will > have to say one thing, in the church that I was in > during the Christmas time had a Christmas tree by > the fireplace, and no one was not dis
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I just want to say that I love you all. This forum saved my life in those early days--people reached out to me in my despair. I was able to vent without being judged--it is kind of fun to poke at the leadership--especially G Man. So, though the work is not done--as Denise points out--closing the doors is really the only way to end the nightmare for good. So carry on my friends and thank you f
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5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
HappySad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > King David? Really? Omg, vomiting, brb. So much > for Rick being gone...looks like he will be > controllng everthing and everyone of his loyal > followers from his “cave”. > > Onion, and others, what are your thoughts about > what is actually going to happen vs what Gary’s > letter and othe
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reepicheep Wrote: > > > TLWF leaders bent on absolute control and power. > Even > > now they are rallying sympathy and support from > > among the faithful behind the scenes. The > torches > > and pitchforks will come out, don't doubt it. > > Watch your backs and
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
It used to be that googling Hargrave or LW or any of it--that the cult education website came up in the first few links. And now go look.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Oh and someone should contact People Magazine about their cults documentary. I bet they would be interested.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
I am kind of sad that ApostleDog is missing this. I never knew what happened to him. He had said he was going in for surgery--that was after his wife died. He didn't know if he would make it. But I am sad he was on here helping people for so long and missed the finale.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think I thanked Anon for a post written by > Blowout. But what the hell, thanks to everyone who > posts here and who continue to have one another's > back. And many thanks to Rick Ross for his dedication to making a safe place for us---and maybe he did not think this day would come--but I am sure t
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
ON the FB thread, it is said that this is Dawn--Hargrave's daughter. Anyone know? It seems to me that the lawsuits for victims of what we have heard is a shoe-in.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Yep I agree 100 percent. Sadly the people on the inside think that Lisa is representing them when she is just covering Gary's ass because that is what she is paid to do.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Leilani Potter To: Shalom From: Leilani > > "I truly and honestly do not believe that was me. > If I knew of your attack, I would have protected > you and reported it. I’m crushed I didn’t know > what happened to you then. But I am here to > support you now." It is no di
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
Blowout Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cloudwatcher: > Can’t seem to send private messages. Got yours. > Yes, interested. Please send email and we can > communicate that way. The pm came through and I responded. Didn't have your email though.
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
5 years ago
Cloudwatcher
denisewallerlaughlin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Please people of every generation Demand to follow > the Money. Everyones life is not just a story. > it was hopes and dreams that were taken away. > Instead of proper educations it was spend time > serving whoever, wherever however. How many > generations where brainwashed into >
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